How to get paid off when you flop quads

[flafishy]

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $242
UTG+1: $76
UTG+2: $112
MP1: $88
MP2: $26.50
MP3: $110
flafishy: $127
Button: $86
SB: $124
BB: $82

Pre-flop: (10 players) flafishy is CO with
4 folds, MP2 calls (1.5:1), MP3 folds, flafishy calls (2.5:1), Button folds, SB calls (3.5:0.5), BB checks.

Flop: (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP2 raises, flafishy calls (7:2), SB folds, BB calls (9:1).

Turn: (5BB, 3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, flafishy calls (6:1), BB calls (7:1).

River: (8BB, 3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, flafishy raises, BB folds, MP2 calls (11:1).

Results:
Final pot: 12BB
flafishy showed 5c 5d
MP2 mucks Qh Qc

[flafishy]

And on the other side of the coin ...

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $63
UTG+1: $62
UTG+2: $101
MP1: $204
MP2: $86
MP3: $59
CO: $85.50
Button: $191
flafishy: $226
BB: $58

Pre-flop: (10 players) flafishy is SB with
3 folds, MP1 raises, 4 folds, flafishy calls (3.5:1.5), BB folds.

Flop: (5SB, 2 players)
flafishy bets, MP1 calls (6:1).

Turn: (3.5BB, 2 players)
flafishy bets, MP1 raises, flafishy calls (6.5:1).

River: (7.5BB, 2 players)
flafishy checks, MP1 bets, flafishy calls (8.5:1).

Results:
Final pot: 9.5BB
MP1 showed Ks Kc
flafishy mucks Td Ac

[briachek]

[flafishy]

[briachek]

[MTPaid]

Hand 1: No way you raise that turn. BB will definitely call again for 1 bet and MP2 may still think he has the better hand and bet out on the river again like he did. If he raises the turn, not only does he lose the BB for sure, but he doesn't get 2 bets out of MP2 on the river. Beautifully played. Did that genius really limp in w/ QQ?

Hand 2: ATo is a hand I'll sometimes fold in that position if the raiser is fairly tight because a raise from EP or early MP will many times mean I'm dominated and out of position.

[Danhdan]

[The Golden 1]

ATo is a definite fold in the SB from that position, its questionable whether you should play it from the BB because this is full ring. I wouldn't.

As for the quads hand I definitely raise the turn as well, the board is becoming very flushy/straighty, and I think its very likely to get 2 bets from both.
And you probably are getting 2 bets from MP2 on the turn, which you aren't guaranteed to get with just calling

[k3nt]

Play no limit and get paid a lot more.
Flop hero checks, turn hero checks, river hero raises a bet to half his stack and gets a call.

[The Golden 1]

[k3nt]

There was no flop bet. No action at all until the river. I was OTB. Flop was 883 and I had 88. Turn was another 3. River brought a flush....

[flafishy]

To paraphrase a quote from MVP ...

No limit sucks ...

[Danhdan]

[Danhdan]