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Slow Play Kings? (3 Handed) $100NL

Postby AXN » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:32 pm

Why shouldn't I slow play my KKs even 3 Handed??

Gaslight 10475050-22241 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1

AXN has $171.58
SB has $157.76
BB has $62.02

AXN is the dealer. [4h] [Ah]

AXN called $1 and raised $2
SB called $2.50, BB Folds

Flop. $7 [Jd] [3s] [2h] SB ... bet $4 ....AXN called $4
Turn $15 [7h] SB..... bet $14 .... AXN called $14
River $43 [5c] SB.... bet $42 ........AXN called $42 and raised $108.58 and is All-in

SB called $94.76 and is All-in

SB has [Kd] [Kh] .. 8-)

AXN wins $315.52 with Straight 5432A
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Postby Twelver » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:12 pm

Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
Mekos King (10:22:23 PM): unless your married and would lose like money inna divorce
Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

Heat517163 (5:05:37 PM): black people man
Heat517163 (5:05:40 PM): they travel in packs
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:00 am

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Postby Kuso » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:01 pm

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby AXN » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:17 pm

Well.. I disagree...

Not about my play... I was lucky-donkie-Calling station- Call it w/e, etc....

But about his play? I think it's just HORRIBLE

Its 3H.. I'm on the SB with KK, Button minraise to $3.... I'm Rerasing that.... (No?)
- instead he called-

Board comes J32 rainbow... Why would he lead $4?... unless he is expecting a Raise.... but then I would had rather a check/raise than a weak lead... (?)

Turn comes 7h, making a heavy draw board.. Pot is $15.... lead for $14?.. I think I would have made a strnger bet ($20 or so).... at this point this guy dunno at all where he is.

River??? 5c, Ok. he can't put me on a hand.. Pot is $43.. He bets $40... I Push, He calls....

You think this is a correct call considering it's 3h (meaning you see a flop about every hand) and after action above.... ?..

(I'm not sure.. probably I would have called my self, but problem wasn't on the river)

Once again I think this is a Hand that get's some considerations, rather that a BAD Beat.
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Postby Stoneburg » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:03 pm

No matter how many LOL's you add I will still not consider it much of a "slowplay" because it was only preflop. If he had check/called the flop or turn, then yes.

I agree that he should have check/raised the flop instead of leading out. I assume he made the weak lead looking for a raise, and if you had AJ, QQ, KJ or something that's probably what he would have gotten. And he would probably have stacked the average player who had TP there. And why would he overbet such an innocent looking flop? The only real draw is for 54, which is a pretty damn unlikely hand.

3xBB is not a miniraise. 3-4BB is actually a standard raise.

His turn bet is actually very good. A 'normal' turn bet is usually about 75% of the pot, he bets 93% because it is draw heavy. It would be silly to bet more, like you recommend. He has no reason to put you on a 13-out draw. Of course you can call the bet because your hand is so well disguised. If you had flopped the flush draw I think it would have been wrong to call his turn bet.

The river I think he should consider a smaller valuebet, however, you have been calling the whole way and he has no reason to believe that [5c] helped you. Most likely he has you on a top-pair hand and is hoping to get paid off. Your raise is very unlikely to be a bluff, I would be pretty sure you had a set actually, so the call isn't very pretty but he's hardly the only one who can't get rid of an overpair after putting half his stack in the pot.

Other than the lack of re-raise preflop I don't think he played it bad, perhaps he should have gotten away on the river (I hope I would) but you won't find a lot of players who can fold KK in that spot.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:41 pm

Am I the ONLY one seeing that there is no flush draw on the turn and that he hit a set of kings?

I think villian played this hand great. I think you played it pretty terribly.
Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:04 pm

WTF?

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It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Kuso » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:38 pm

that's not what i see.
wwcrd?

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Postby redhouse » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:12 pm

Mekos King: existence without running good
Mekos King: truly has no purpose
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:29 am

So noone else sees the Kc? :?
Poker is silly.

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Postby MacAnthony » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:02 am

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<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
<Trump34> yep
<emmasdad> i have only done that 3 times in a year and a half. . .
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