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Postby JSBC » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:02 pm

With a couple draws out there, do you it better to wait till the turn to shove it?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (8 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($60.40)
MP2 ($19.80)
CO ($58.65)
Hero ($45.65)
SB ($178.05)
BB ($90.90)
UTG ($40.25)
UTG+1 ($51.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Tc], [Td], [Qd], [Kd].
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $3, UTG calls $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($15.25) [7h], [4s], [Ts] (5 players)
BB bets $14.5, UTG folds, MP1 calls $14.50, CO folds, Hero calls $14.50.

Turn: ($58.75) [Ad] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $28.15 (All-In), BB folds, MP1 calls $28.15.

River: ($115.05) [Th] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $115.05

Results in white below:
[color=white][6s 9d 9s 8d]


Outcome: Hero wins $115.05. [/color]
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:25 am

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Postby Kuso » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:40 am

monk said it quite well, but i'll still say more or less the same thing my own way...

sometimes it IS better to wait until the turn, but in this case i think it's an easy push. you only like non-spade A, 2, Q, K (10 cards) or a paired board on the turn, so there are plenty of cards you don't want to see. furthermore, as monk said, if the board does pair, you've killed your action.

also, the pot has gotten pretty big for this buy-in (60% of a stack), so there's no crime in taking it down on the flop. furthermore, the pot is big enough or will be big enough that you really don't want to be forced to fold if a scare card comes -- you want to see two cards and take your equity to fill up (assuming you're behind) from the flop onwards.

this can be a high-variance way to play, but i think it saves you from making the tragic error of folding when you're ahead (i.e., a scare card hits and villain semi-bluffs it with a flush and/or straight redraw) while at the same time giving you the maximum chance of taking down a juicy pot uncontested.

anyway, nihan, sir!
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Postby MacAnthony » Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:19 am

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<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
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Postby pnutbutr » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:20 pm

Why is that board so scary? That's about as uncoordinated a baord as you can hope for to flop top set w/10s. Shove that flop and either make someone pay for their wrap draw or abuse some idiot w/ and underset.
^ No, I didn't limp with that hand.

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:12 pm

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A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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