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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:50 pm

The CO is a really crazy player VPIP in the 70's and PFR in the 30's. Ths limp reraise from the CO preflop confused the hell out of me. On the flop I have a big hand with a big draw and I really figure I have him in bad shape and decided to let him hand himself. The turn gives me more nut outs and he makes a big bet, now what?


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Pre-flop: (8 players) IzaFishyy is Button with [As] [Ks]
4 folds, CO calls, IzaFishyy raises to $4, 2 folds, CO raises to $11, IzaFishyy calls.

Flop: [4s] [Ts] [Ah] ($23.5, 2 players)
CO bets $10, IzaFishyy calls.

Turn: [Jc] ($43.5, 2 players)
CO bets $30, IzaFishyy raises all-in $76.9, CO calls.

River: [3h] ($197.3, 2 players)
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Postby Alchemist » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:04 pm

VPIP and PFR don't mean squat for when some-one re-raises. This is a different category of betting IMO and one we could use another stat for to go along with VPIP and PFR....PFRR...but I digress.

It's a great flop, no matter who I'm playing I gonna shovel money into this on the flop when I've got the best hand possibly and also the best chance to draw out if I haven't.
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Postby iceman5 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:07 pm

I wouldve pushed the flop.
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Postby Twelver » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:11 pm

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Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

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Postby NorthView » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:20 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:29 pm

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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:07 pm

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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:42 am

I'd fold as Im pretty sure he has AA...
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Postby laynegt » Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:49 am

i think the flop call is the way to go v crazy guy. don't give him a chance to fold.
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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:46 am

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Postby Rhound50 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:44 am

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Postby Aisthesis » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:18 pm

I'm not completely sure how I play this one, although I'll definitely lose my stack.

I would expect a fairly big hand from this guy in this situation. He limps to avoid winning just the blinds if you fold, then makes a raise that definitely wants a caller. I think I'd be looking for QQ-AA, despite his very loose PF statistics (I think he'd make a little bigger raise on AK, but obviously haven't seen this guy play).

If that read is accurate (?), then I wonder whether a call him down strategy isn't best. He's behind 9 times (6 QQ and 3 KK) and ahead once where you need your flush. In fact, if he has QQ, he's drawing completely dead on the turn (and has only 1 out with KK).

If I was able to figure this out on the spot, I think I'd probably call him down and push almost any river (and obviously not be happy with the result)--unless he's going to call a raise earlier with QQ or KK and the A showing. I guess I MIGHT persuade myself to flat call a river bet, but I doubt it. He's in awfully deep by that time to lay down KK or QQ by that time, and the AA I would simply have to view as the exception.

Anyhow, I guess that's one of your problematic AK hands, but I really don't have any real problems with the way you played it.

Also, if his range is really QQ-AA on the limp-re-raise, he has AA/KK half the time and QQ half the time. I guess one could consider laying it down PF, but I really hate to against a LAG--particularly with the suited bonus, which puts you right at 50-50 against QQ.
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