Didn't realize the field was so big on the flop. Agreed, you can't lead there.
Given the size of the field, I think the entire play postflop is probably spewing. You are not ahead of the whole field and you are OOP. Your only chance to win is to bluff big or catch super lucky. Just check/fold the flop.
Looking at the description again, I don't understand preflop. If you raise to 4 and then someone minraises they must have raised to 7? Is this $100 NL? Or is it $50 NL and you raised to 4x = $2 and the minreraise is to $3.50 or $4.00? Or ...???
Good bluff or spewing?
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by Pozzo » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:09 pm
I didn't realize there was a 4th player in on the flop. So the pot on the flop was $33ish then?
I guess with 3 other players in and without knowing something about the preflop raiser I wouldn't bet the flop. But if it was only the raiser and the sb then I think might. I would just rather try to steal it on the flop and shutdown if called or raised, than get into a check-call situation.
I guess with 3 other players in and without knowing something about the preflop raiser I wouldn't bet the flop. But if it was only the raiser and the sb then I think might. I would just rather try to steal it on the flop and shutdown if called or raised, than get into a check-call situation.
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by Stoneburg » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:24 pm
Sorry, the pot was 35 or so on the flop. (The HH's at this place suck and you can't convert them nor are they saved).
I figure the bettor has AA, KK or AK. The reason I don't pull the trigger sooner is that I want to make sure nobody is slowplaying the full house so that *I* can pretend like I am. When the SB just calls the river I am fairly sure bettor has AA and that caller has a Jack, I figure they both will be hard pressed to call a real raise.
On the flop I'm getting odds to draw to my gutter assuming I am not drawing dead. If he has KK my A is live, if he has AA my K is live. It's absolutely super marginal and possibly horrible but I was way ahead for the session, hadn't bluffed or made a fancy play, and had showed down some big hands. I wanted to see if I could make him lay down AA. I mean the way I played it is just like a lot of players would play JJ, TT or JT here.
I figure the bettor has AA, KK or AK. The reason I don't pull the trigger sooner is that I want to make sure nobody is slowplaying the full house so that *I* can pretend like I am. When the SB just calls the river I am fairly sure bettor has AA and that caller has a Jack, I figure they both will be hard pressed to call a real raise.
On the flop I'm getting odds to draw to my gutter assuming I am not drawing dead. If he has KK my A is live, if he has AA my K is live. It's absolutely super marginal and possibly horrible but I was way ahead for the session, hadn't bluffed or made a fancy play, and had showed down some big hands. I wanted to see if I could make him lay down AA. I mean the way I played it is just like a lot of players would play JJ, TT or JT here.
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by Zmej » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:53 am
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by NorthView » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:38 am
I seriously consider folding preflop.
Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.
Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.
Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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