AA deep

[Aisthesis]

I agree, although it also makes AJ rather more probable, as well as a flush draw.

So that really means that it boils down to reads as to how this guy would play what. If he'd flat call with a flush draw, for example, then you have to lay down.

[wolvish]

[iceman5]

Maybe hes raising because hes solid and thats what solid players do with a set when they are deep and they think the other guy cant fold an overpair?

[hard2tel]

This is not an 'easy fold'... but the point is, you're OOP, deep, and only have AA.

If folding is so weak-tight (which might be the case, but i dont think so), then u have to raise pretty much the pot on the flop to see where u are. And then if he pushes your done with hand i assume. But what if he calls? then what? I just think you would be saving alot of money in the long run if u just muck and wait for a better spot.

[wolvish]

[iceman5]

[Triple B]

[poker2006]

Did you have any tell from how fast he raised you? It doesn't look like one of those fishy min raises, but I would put in a reraise to 135 or so. I'm definitely not folding. A good player could be easily raising with a draw there. If he calls your reraise you might try to check it down, or get more information from his bet size if he bets the turn.

[kennyg]

[Aisthesis]

I wish Kenny had given a more definitive "answer" here, as I'd be very interested.

In actuality, looking at the history here, specifically having stacked the guy a short while before with a CRAI, I like the simple fold line. You've recently shown enormous aggression and there's no reason here why you can't have AK or something.

I think a raise in this situation is completely out of the question.

In a vacuum, the best I can normally do here is flat call and hope it gets checked down. But the background of the hand to me favors the laydown. I can't say exactly why except that the background of the hand has this whole thing too emotionally charged. I'd also like the board a little more if I at least had Ah in my hand--giving runner-runner possibilities, possibilities of bluffing AKs, and also making the possibility of setting your aces at least definitely NOT create a suited board.

While I don't like the immediate laydown as habitual play, I do like it in context. You've just stacked the guy. Now get out of his way a little in a small-medium pot and let everything chill out a little.

[shobute]

Okay, let's see if I can fix the mess I've made of my posts in this thread.

You did a fine job explaining it Kenny.
In a case like this if Ice reraises here:

A) Guy has an overpair or onepair type hand and mostly mucks but occasionally goes all-in.

B) Guy has a set and calls/goes all-in. Ice is committed to his hand at this point and has to call. This is bad.

C) Guy has a draw and goes all-in. Again Ice is committed to his hand and calls for a coinflip. This is okay but not great.

If you want to stack off in this hand, it is far far better to call and see a safe turn and then get the money in.
You're still going broke to group B hands but now you may get more money out of group A hands and your equity against group C hands has improved a ton.
If a scare card falls you may be folding the best hand but given the hand range on the flop you're now behind more often than not.

So for an answer: for a double stack I'd often fold here on the flop but sometimes I would call and get the money in on a safe turn with either a CRAI if he's aggro or a bet-call if he's passive.
I'd lean more toward stacking off depending on images at the time, etc.

I think that's my final answer.

[DoctorHandles]

[T-Rod]