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Postby Pok 7's » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:14 am

Funny I think I mentioned something similar to this in a thread to Redhouse recently.... Anyway shoud I not have popped this river here? Looking back I met no resistance on the turn but someone leads into me on the river should have raised the caution flag, I think. Or does anyone feel as though I should have raised again here? Tribeca format sorry.

Holdem Limit $1/$2
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : Hand Start.
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : Seat 1 : cphustler has $124.25
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : Seat 2 : T-tommy has $40
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : Seat 3 : MIAMITHICK has $42.75
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : Seat 4 : Jazzitup45 has $32.25
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : Seat 5 : Hero has $93.62
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : Seat 6 : throx has $20
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : cphustler is the dealer.
[Aug 28 02:30:05] : T-tommy posted small blind.
[Aug 28 02:30:06] : MIAMITHICK posted big blind.
[Aug 28 02:30:06] : Game [21621] started with 6 players.
[Aug 28 02:30:06] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Aug 28 02:30:06] : Seat 5 : Hero has [Ac] [Qs]
[Aug 28 02:30:17] : Jazzitup45 called $1
[Aug 28 02:30:18] : Hero Raises $2
[Aug 28 02:30:21] : throx folded.
[Aug 28 02:30:23] : cphustler folded.
[Aug 28 02:30:23] : T-tommy called $1.50
[Aug 28 02:30:24] : MIAMITHICK called $1
[Aug 28 02:30:24] : Jazzitup45 called $1
[Aug 28 02:30:25] : Dealing flop.
[Aug 28 02:30:25] : Board cards [4d] [2d] [8h]
[Aug 28 02:30:27] : T-tommy checked.
[Aug 28 02:30:29] : MIAMITHICK checked.
[Aug 28 02:30:31] : Jazzitup45 bet $1
[Aug 28 02:30:34] : Hero called $1
[Aug 28 02:30:35] : T-tommy called $1
[Aug 28 02:30:36] : MIAMITHICK called $1
[Aug 28 02:30:37] : Dealing turn.
[Aug 28 02:30:37] : Board cards [4d] [2d] [8h] [Qh]
[Aug 28 02:30:39] : T-tommy checked.
[Aug 28 02:30:40] : MIAMITHICK bet $2
[Aug 28 02:30:42] : Jazzitup45 called $2
[Aug 28 02:30:43] : Hero Raies $4
[Aug 28 02:30:44] : T-tommy folded.
[Aug 28 02:30:45] : MIAMITHICK called $2
[Aug 28 02:30:51] : Jazzitup45 called $2
[Aug 28 02:30:51] : Dealing river.
[Aug 28 02:30:51] : Board cards [4d] [2d] [8h] [Qh] [5s]
[Aug 28 02:30:56] : MIAMITHICK checked.
[Aug 28 02:30:58] : Jazzitup45 bet $2
[Aug 28 02:30:59] : Hero Raises to $4
[Aug 28 02:31:00] : T-tommy : dangit
[Aug 28 02:31:01] : MIAMITHICK folded.
[Aug 28 02:31:02] : Jazzitup45 3 bets $6
[Aug 28 02:31:04] : Hero Calls
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Postby Kuso » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:22 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Pok 7's » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:30 am

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Postby Kuso » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:11 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Danhdan » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:54 am

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Postby growlers » Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:06 am

There are very few "reads" I could have here that would cause me to raise this river. The only possible way you are ahead here is if he thought you were raising the turn on a draw and he had some meager holding like Ahigh that he thought you might throw away a slightly better hand by betting out on the river. But of course there is no point in raising that hand since there is no way he would call the raise anyway.

Example: He thinks maybe you raised turn with [Ah] [4h] and he has [Ad] [Td] but this situation is like high level stuff so I sincerely doubt he is this good to even think of this play.

Against the vast vast majority of players this is either:
two pair or higher he aint gonna fold
a busted flush draw and he is a total donk trying to get you off the hand

Either way raising has no value.
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Postby Kuso » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:29 am

i've seen people do this with hands like [Ah] [8h] or Qx -- they aren't your typical 1/2 player, but they're around.
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Postby redhouse » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:43 am

He's a passive player betting into a three handed pot where both the other players obviously have a piece. I don't think you're ahead often enough to raise.
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Postby antneye » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:57 am

Make a crying call. Raising here is just bleeding off chips.

As others have said, you are probably beat, but more importantly there is no way he calls your raise with anything you can beat. He either folds or shows down the winner.

This clown is the BB and would have stuck around until now with any piece of the board based on your stats on him. I think a 2 pr comboa probably makes more sense than the strt, but either is a possibility.
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Postby Pok 7's » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:50 am

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