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Postby ua1176 » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:48 am

ok lately i've been experiencing a 5-buyin downswing at $100NL on Tribeca. its pretty strange because i've been beating the $50NL for 12ptbb/100 over almost 20k hands. but i think i must not be adjusting properly.

the $50NL game is very straightforward. 200bb buyin. games are very loose/passive, players are easy to read, and i have almost never played a big pot without the best hand.

the $100NL is stupid-donk-aggro. everyone leads into the raiser like it's their job, with everything from overpairs to sets to bottom pair to nothing. i've seen tons of players lead full pot into me and call my raise with just overcards. i had a player call my PF raise, call my flop bet (i had AA), and overbet-shove over my turn bet for $80 on a 975T board. i thought and thought and folded and he showed me his T6 offsuit. i had another player call my $20 PF reraise with 98o (i had AA again). he called down and rivered his straight.

i feel like im constantly getting pushed off the best hand.......and yet somehow im also losing a lot of big pots when i decide to call a big bet. i feel like i don't get any information from the betting action because these players are even more stupid than the lower-stakes ones, and there's just no way for me to put them on a hand.

so clearly im not adjusting correctly. any thoughts on what to do?

if it matters..i generally play a pretty solid, TAG-but-creative game. roughly 23/10/2.5. mostly straightforward basic NL poker, but i pick my spots to reraise light preflop with SC's or broadway cards, and i open up my range pretty wide from CO or Button.

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Postby KikoSanchez » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:57 am

How many tables do you play at a time? A good thing to do if you multi-table is to cut back down to 1, maybe 2, tables for a few days and simply concentrate on watching everyone and trying to understand others' play. This should help you to play your A+ game and rebuild your confidence.
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Postby AlexMR » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:05 am

I am getting the same feeling you have in my first day at NL$200. They are still very bad but more aggressive.

As for nl$50 TO nl$100, I THINK IF YOU JUST PLAY THE SAME GAME STYLEYOU WERE PLAYING AT NL$50 you should get almost the exactsame results in terms of PTBB/100 hands.

I experienced some troubles in Tribeca's NL$100 tables. The games were really agrro and I was taking a lot of beats. It sounds like you are just running cld and that mihgt be affecting your confidence.

If you are beating $50NL at 12ptbb/100 then you should have absolutely NO PROBLEMS dealing with the almost the same donks with double stacks to lose.

Are you playing 6max? 23% VP$IP is a bit high for my taste in FR.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:52 am

This FR?

I think you're on a bad run anyways because people are not that aggressive at NL $100, as that's all I play at Tribecca. My stats are around the same as yours with a much higher aggression factor. My advice for you is to

#1) Bet hard preflop. If 4 people limp, raise it to $8 with AQ. A CB of $12 takes it down 75%+ of the time.

#2) Bet out a lot. Don't be the one calling down. When people call/min raise (minraise is all they'll usually do) you really need to be packing heat.

#3) Since people are so aggro, position is even more important at higher levels.

Do that and you should be fine (especially since you have 12BB/100 at $50NL)
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Postby ua1176 » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:31 am

hi guys thanks for the reply. a few points.

1. i play 6-max. i don't have the patience for full ring, honestly.

2. i was playing 4 tables @ $50NL. i've cut back to 2, sometimes 3, when i try $100NL.

3. my CB's are rarely effective if ever this past week. i have people calling out of position with any pair, overcards, gutshots, and sometimes with absolutely nothing.

maybe it is just a bad run. but the play at the $100NL seems just totally opposite of the $50NL that im used to.
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Postby shamdonk » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:26 am

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby DoctorHandles » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:52 pm

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Postby bkholdem » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:56 pm

i play FR, 200 and 400 mostly, and I find that I cbet less frequently at tribeca than at other sites.

If one of the primary objectives of cbetting is that you can take down the pot a good % of the time...and at the table your playing this is not true, I think it makes sense to cbet less frequently .
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