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Postby Twelver » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:30 pm

I haven't been at the table but for about 5 hands. The cold call of my raise on the flop by UTG really slowed me down. I thought for sure he had 22/33/55. When the A hit on the river I was counting my blessings...but then he pushes into me...he can't possibly have 64 can he?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

BB ($154.12)
UTG ($353.94)
MP ($197)
CO ($149.05)
Hero ($200)
SB ($201.89)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [4d], [4c]. MP posts a blind of $3. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP (poster) raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $9, 2 folds, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($31) [2c], [3s], [5c] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $17, Hero raises to $50, UTG calls $50, MP folds.

Turn: ($148) [9d] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($148) [Ad] (2 players)
UTG calls $294.94 (All-In) Hero?
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Postby shamdonk » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:38 pm

OOoooooooof that is pretty nasty. I probably close my eyes and call. He has to have a set here more than 64 MAN that is nasty. He also could be bluffing your 4 but im not sure at what frequency this type of player would do that. Maybe he thinks you have a missed FD. You are afraid of 1 hand and we can put him on at least 4 so I think we gotta call here.

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Postby wreck27 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:13 pm

He's got a set of 3s. I call all day.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:10 pm

Seriously... if he raised 46 in MP, I just vomit and move on... Your turn check could've EASILY induced... He could have AK, a set, blah blah blah... That sir is an instacall, especially since you only have 1 stack...
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:13 pm

Oh... I didnt see he wasn't he PFRer... I still think he has a set more often than 46...
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Postby Twelver » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:59 pm

Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
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Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

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Postby Stelvask » Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:22 pm

you're up against UTG... utg limp called a raise. MP raised preflop and then bet out and folded on the flop.

You're being afraid of monsters under the bed if you're folding here.

Lets look at a few things.

1: you called a raise in position. his first read is that you likely have two big cards, maybe suited, or a pair.
2: he limped UTG, and then called a raise OOP, this tells you that he likely has two big cards, maybe suited, or a pair.
3: you raised the flop. this play is perfect, IMO, since it gives you a chance to take the pot down right now, and if not, your hand is well disguised. Let me say this again, well disguised. there is no way your opponent is giving you credit for the 4 here.
4: he called a bet and a raise on the flop. Given his likely hand holding, this limits his hand range to:

A: an overpair he's refusing to let go of
B: [Ac]Xc
C: a flopped set.

Now, of these hands, which would he check the turn with and flat push against you on the river with? C is the most likely, with B not far behind. A is flat out and makes no sense.

I'm calling here every day and twice on thursdays. If he's donk enough to limp 64 in this spot, then good on him. because he will NOT have money much longer.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:35 pm

I'm calling all day everyday. I think he has [Ac] [6c].
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Postby Alastor2262 » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:12 am

i think he got a set :
his flop betting is consistent with a set
he was expecting to check raise you all in on the turn after your flop raise and he shoved the river because he was pissed off, you checked behind on the turn...
i would called
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Postby Alastor2262 » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:13 am

i think he got a set :
his flop betting is consistent with a set
he was expecting to check raise you all in on the turn after your flop raise and he shoved the river because he was pissed off, you checked behind on the turn...
i would called
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Postby Zmej » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:24 am

CALL-CALL-CALL

Seriously, being afraid here of 46.... Don't forget that you have 44 reducing his chances to have another 4. I would push myself a lot of times here.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:38 am

I'm guessing 100% that he has 46 here... Takin all prop bets, laying 2:1 if anyones interested...
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