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$100 PLO8: Firing another barrel?

Postby MattSk » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:03 pm

I have got this nice starting hand but the flop doesn't hit me. Nevertheless I try to win with a continuation bet. Unfortunately villain calls. The turn completes a flush as well as a straight draw. Would you fire another barrel here? If yes, how much would you bet? Assuming that villain called on the turn, what is your action on the river?

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $64.10
UTG+1: $62.05
Hero: $126.50
MP1: $180.16
MP2: $102.69
MP3: $100
CO: $34.40
Button: $94.50
SB: $128.79
BB: $97

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with [2c] [Ac] [6d] [Ah]
2 folds, Hero raises to $5.5, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 5 folds.

Flop: [8d] [9c] [Kd] ($12.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $14.25, MP2 calls.

Turn: [Jd] ($41, 2 players)
Hero bets $22.14, MP2 calls.

River: [8c] ($85.28, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $47.51, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $47.51 returned to MP2.

Results:
Final pot: $85.28

I have not played a lot of hands with villain. But I was able to push him out of the following hand, which happened a few minutes before the above hand was played:

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players


Stack sizes:
Hero: $107.05
UTG+1: $175.76
MP1: $96
MP2: $112.88
MP3: $35.40
CO: $96
Button: $155.88
SB: $99
BB: $109.12

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with [Qh] [Ah] [4s] [2s]
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [Ac] [5s] [7s] ($5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.75, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds.

Turn: [9d] ($14.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $13.8, MP1 calls.

River: [Td] ($42.1, 2 players)
Hero bets $20.81, MP1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $20.81 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $42.1
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Postby LeeLoo » Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:41 pm

Second hand villian was probably chasing flush or low or both, first hand you pushed the flop with negative results, on the turn you are, ( in my opinion facing a straight or draw or 2 pair or set) but being in this position many times, without further info on villian you are getting your ass pounded. Aces against that board is death against someone who lets you bet. But there are many idiots who keep calling with nothing but if you keep counting on that to be the case you will go broke.

This is one of my enebriated answers with not much thought but with that in mind alot depends on the number of hands you have against villian, how often you raise pre flop and what you raise pre flop with.

If I'm villian and you usually only raise with aces or 4 low I will call pre flop with a much larger range and wait for you to push , and keep pushing when I have you. And like me, who can't trust anyone for to long, I bet the river to make sure I get all I can from you just in case you check my check.

Now the rest of the responses you get might be detailed and talk about what possible holdings villian has it will all be for ****. The fact is you have crap on the river, the question is who is dumber, you or villian.
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Postby LeeLoo » Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:57 pm

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Postby LeeLoo » Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:00 pm

Damn, I am drunk, I just noticed you said turn made flush, you really are screwed or against a bucket of balls, how big are yours and how much will they shrink if you call the river.
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Postby januarymute » Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:45 pm

LeeLoo, you need to get some cock in you.
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Postby GooperMC » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:21 am

No I don't fire that turn again unless I had the [Ad]. Most likely villian is drawing for the flush and if he is drawing for the str8 my guess is that it will take 2 more bullets to drive him off (turn and river). I don't want to bluff into the nuts and I don't want to fire 2 more bullets so I check and see what he does on the river.
Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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