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Good call to push? NL$200 FR

Postby Texan-From-Hell » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:18 am

Yeah I know, 200NL is WAY above my limit, but had a good month at work, so thought - why not give it a try and contribute some cash to the BTP community members who play at those stakes? :lol:


My question about this hand is - did I play it OK? was the AI the right thing to do?



Real Money Ring Game
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
Castaway 10475087-49938 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Hand Start.
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 1 : porn star has $76.75
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 2 : pdr507 has $347
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 3 : SID424 has $23.14
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 4 : crazy-texan has $68.48
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 5 : murzea88 has $98.30
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 6 : gumper has $94
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 7 : Kobe 24 has $269.97
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 8 : txdave72 has $120
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : Seat 9 : TRICKYBASTD has $192
[Oct 23 14:12:40] : gumper is the dealer.
[Oct 23 14:12:41] : Kobe 24 posted small blind.
[Oct 23 14:12:41] : txdave72 posted big blind.
[Oct 23 14:12:41] : Game [49938] started with 8 players.
[Oct 23 14:12:41] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Oct 23 14:12:41] : Seat 4 : crazy-texan has 8d 8h
[Oct 23 14:12:43] : TRICKYBASTD folded.
[Oct 23 14:12:44] : porn star called $2
[Oct 23 14:12:48] : pdr507 called $2
[Oct 23 14:12:51] : crazy-texan called $2 and raised $8
[Oct 23 14:12:53] : murzea88 folded.
[Oct 23 14:12:56] : gumper called $10
[Oct 23 14:12:59] : Kobe 24 folded.
[Oct 23 14:13:01] : txdave72 folded.
[Oct 23 14:13:03] : porn star called $8
[Oct 23 14:13:06] : pdr507 folded.
[Oct 23 14:13:06] : Dealing flop.
[Oct 23 14:13:06] : Board cards [Ah Jd 8s]
[Oct 23 14:13:11] : porn star checked.
[Oct 23 14:13:18] : crazy-texan bet $15
[Oct 23 14:13:23] : gumper called $15
[Oct 23 14:13:24] : porn star called $15 and raised $51.75 and is All-in
[Oct 23 14:13:26] : crazy-texan called $43.48 and is All-in
[Oct 23 14:13:29] : gumper called $51.75
[Oct 23 14:13:29] : Showdown!

Results in white:


[Oct 23 14:13:29] : Seat 4 : crazy-texan has 8d 8h
[Oct 23 14:13:31] : Seat 1 : porn star has 8c Jc
[Oct 23 14:13:31] : Seat 4 : crazy-texan has 8d 8h
[Oct 23 14:13:31] : Seat 6 : gumper has Ad Kc
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : Board cards [Ah Jd 8s Ac 5c]
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : Seat 1 : porn star has 8c Jc
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : porn star has Two Pair: Aces and Jacks
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : Seat 6 : gumper has Ad Kc
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : gumper has 3 of a Kind: Aces
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : gumper wins $16.33 with 3 of a Kind: Aces
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : Seat 1 : porn star has 8c Jc
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : porn star has Two Pair: Aces and Jacks
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : Seat 4 : crazy-texan has 8d 8h
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : crazy-texan has Full House : 8s full of Aces
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : Seat 6 : gumper has Ad Kc
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : gumper has 3 of a Kind: Aces
[Oct 23 14:13:37] : crazy-texan wins $207.65 with Full House : 8s full of Aces
[Oct 23 14:13:52] : Hand is over.
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Postby Cooper » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:55 am

That flop basically plays itself, so yes, you have no other choice.

Edit:BTW lead out flop, the way you played your flop action makes it look likean obvious AA/JJ (you are so short no one is folding anyway)

Sorry just saw you DID lead out on flop, nice play.

The only issue I have is preflop, raising 88 you usually do for set value and I guess it's ok if you are deep and try to hit a set against another deepstack player. With such a shallow stack however I don't think raising medium PP's preflop FR is a good strategy.

If you're going to play a shortstack strategy on these limit check out the shortstack strategy thread on this forum.
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Postby Electrolux » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:00 am

I think the push is OK, as played. Especially since your are such short stack they will call you, As they did.

But with your Pre-flop raise of 10 you actually do not give yourself odds to hit your set. If you play 88 for makin a set. You make it around 10% of the time, so you need to make more than 10x your bet / or call of bet when you hit. And with a stack of only 68 you cannot do that.

So I think that a better play would be
A) buy in with max buy in. In this hand you would have made more money if you had a full stack
B) in the case of the small stack, just limp and call a rasie behind you.
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Postby Texan-From-Hell » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:11 am

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Postby adamh » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:30 am

mets better step it up
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