AQJ7 reraised pre 1kPLO

[gregnice]

Blinds: $5/$10
9 players

Stack sizes:
Hero: $1186
SB: $943.25


Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with
Hero raises to $30, 6 folds, SB raises to $100, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: ($210, 2 players)
SB bets $207, Hero raises to $828


no real reads, i guessed villian to be solid based on the fact that hes multitabling the games with full stacks. i figure his reraise out of position for AAxx, but i suppose it could be other hands as well. what other types of hands would you put him on with the reraise pre?

my hand doesnt play well vs aces, so i should probably muck, but since hes solid i figure i might be able to get him to lay down postflop. i get a flop that it might work on, plus i have the flush draw to go with it.

[Xaston]

[Kuso]

[GodlikeRoy]

[Kuso]

[gregnice]

[Felonius_Monk]

[gregnice]

he did have AAxx and he called with no draw

why is his play so horrible? the reverse implied odds of getting in such a tough spot as i put him in? if his range is much wider than AA, then how is my raise then?

[Felonius_Monk]

Re-raising anything from the SB sucks. Re-raising JUSt AAxx when you have 90% of your stack in tow is horrific. OOP, when your opponent knows HALF your hand and you're unlikely to be more than a 55-45 favourite to showdown is V bad because you give your opponent every advantage. They have the position, they have the deception, AND they know what your hand is. They have a free shot at your stack basically. If you're highly aggro and you also make that move with low wraps, any two pair, good high card hands etc, then it's still a bad play IMO because you're always going to be OOP.

I just can't ever see an occasion in PLO when raising from the blinds is anything other than abysmal online. I've never seen a game on a PC that plays deep enough to make it OK to give away anything, and put yourself in jeopardy, when you KNOW you'll be OOP. Re-raising out of the blinds is ugly in any game, bar none, no matter how good you are. It's always terrible and the only time I'd ever do it is as a metagame play with a strong wrap, knowing I'm not giving away too much in equity terms whilst making myself look like a LAG fish to the rest of the table (although if I'm at a table that'd quickly recognise a blind raise as being a bad play, I'd move, because there are a lot of weak PLO tables out there and so there's no need to play against anyone good).

If his range is wider than AA your raise remains somewhere in the region of marginal. If you're cultivating a LAG image then I think it's a decent enough play, especially against an opponent who can fold. As I said, you need him to be able to lay down a significant number of hands regardless of how loose/aggressive he is because even if you get called down you're behind against anything he'd show. Once you get to the "How good is this play if opponent is decent and tricky and aggressive" you're opening a whole can of worms because a decent tricky aggro opponent will have a big book on you by now too... Have you done anything out of the ordinarry so far? Shown down anything wierd? Made aggro plays? What's your image like? Basically I think you need a good read and/or the right image to do this. The read is: your opponent is over-anxious but can fold a missed hand and won't stack off on stuff like pair plus mediocre flush draw here. The image is: tight as a drum, possibly tricky, with an observant opponent.

[Aisthesis]

On the post-flop aspect, I agree completely with Monk.

PF, while I don't like the raise on this particular hand UTG, I feel like Monk is being a little too inflexible with OOP raises. I don't like the UTG raise on AQJ7ds specifically because I feel like it's not really enough hand from that position (that particular one I'd only raise with position). As a matter of fact, I would often just fold it UTG. Pretty as it looks, I don't think it has enough going for it. I more seriously dislike it pretty much always to the re-raise (make it AQJTds, and I'm good to go, quite aside from the particular board, and I'm down with AQJ9ds as well).

[Felonius_Monk]

I make a reasonable number of OOP raises but I'm really convinced it's not good play and does me no favours. I do call this hand in any spot though, unless the table is hyper-aggro and a raise is basically guaranteed.

I actually didn't notice the UTG raise here but I'm not convinced it's a good play here, no.

[Aisthesis]