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Postby iceman5 » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:27 pm

$25 PL Omaha to kill some time

Couple limpers and I limp [Jd][Js][Ts][Ad].

Flop comes [Jd][8c][7c]. EP total donk bets pot. Next guy reraises pot (which is to about $7ish). EP donk started with $10. Next guy has me covered. I have $25.

Do I fold this or try to get all in.
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Postby Aisthesis » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:12 pm

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Postby Ojingo » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:33 pm

A 3 way allin is by no means disastrous here, especially since you can redraw to the straight and have the backdoor diamond draw as well (do you?). Just a simulation:

[Ad][Js][Jd][Ts] 31.38% win
[Ac][Kh][Qh][5c] 34.59% win, 5% tie
[7s][8s][9h][Th] 28.68% win, 5% tie

on a board of [Jh][8c][7c].

At the $25 it's not at all unusual to see these hands, although anyone decent would probably not want to play for stacks with the flopped straight without redraws.

As Ais explained there are cases where you want to fold this, especially if you think people will not be very aggressive without strong redraws here, but at the $25 the random donk factor is so high that you will often enough be in decent situations like above, or even against a hand that has very few outs against you, so I don't mind a push, if only because if you win it will generate a huge amount of tilt by the guy who "flopped the nuts and got sucked out on"...
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Postby iceman5 » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:53 pm

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Postby Anders » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:09 am

If the river don't kill you, it ain't PLO
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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:46 am

I don't mind getting it in 3-way too much, although you're often blocked a bit. I do expect to see the nut straight here like 90% of the time though. Having said that, with position I think your hand is clearly worth a raise preflop if is indeed the purty AJJTds
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