who pays this off?

[Devbert]

[Rhound50]

[black_knight6]

To OP: insta call...he could have a T or JJ/QQ here lots.

[KJo]

[Devbert]

The pot was $170 after you called the min-raise.

You called a bet of $75 on the turn (a pretty weak bet, like 40% of the pot) - your saying you wouldn't have called a bet of $100-125 (a much more realistic bet that is 60% of the pot)?

Because if you would have then this would have committed you to calling a bet of $200 on the river.

[KJo]

[Devbert]

[Rhound50]

[KJo]

[Devbert]

If it's a weak-passive game then their is all the more reason to raise it on the flop because you'll find out right then and there if he out-flopped you - a weak-passive player won't call a third re-raise on the flop without the goods (i.e. a set or 10-9).

Obviously it was one of "those" hands where it isn't a question of whether you win or lose (your definitely going to a lose), but a question of how much and by which way do you get there.

I think you'll find that you'll lose typically less (and no more than the same amount) and you'll find out more information about your opponent and his hand by testing him on that flop. And that way you can avoid absolutely hating life when you let him check-min-raise you with Q-J or 8-7 and then he leads weak on the turn and you just call. That's how you let a donk make a straight and take most of your stack.

How would you play this hand after just smooth-calling his min-raise on the flop and the turn comes a King, Jack, 8, or 6? What if you smooth-call the brick on the turn and the river comes a King, Jack, 8, or 6?

I'm basically just wondering how you commited you feel after smooth-calling a min-raise on that flop - are you going to call value bets down to the river no matter what the turn and river comes? Is there any "scare" card for you? Are you commited to paying off whatever value bets he deems suitable, or is their an amount besides "all-in" that would push you off the hand?