I have 190.
Preflop: I open raise OTB to 7 with
![[Ah]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ah.gif "The Ace of Hearts")
![[5h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5h.gif "The Five of Hearts")
, both blinds call.
Flop (21):
![[2h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2h.gif "The Two of Hearts")
![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
![[9h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
Checked to me I bet 15, SB minraises to 30, BB calls,
Call or push?
Nut flush draw multiway, call or push? NL200 5max
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Nut flush draw multiway, call or push? NL200 5max
by Zmej » Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:40 am
SB has 70. BB has 240 he is fishy 45/5/1.5 over 50 hands. Several hands ago he lead into me in a raised pot with a flush draw (I had air and folded SB called him down and lost a big pot when the draw hit).
I have 190.
Preflop: I open raise OTB to 7 with , both blinds call.
Flop (21):
Checked to me I bet 15, SB minraises to 30, BB calls,
Call or push?
I have 190.
Preflop: I open raise OTB to 7 with
, both blinds call.
Flop (21):
Checked to me I bet 15, SB minraises to 30, BB calls,
Call or push?
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by GodlikeRoy » Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:58 am
Poker is silly.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
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by GodlikeRoy » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:08 am
Poker is silly.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
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by Zmej » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:02 am
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by Zmej » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:33 am
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by Electrolux » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:28 am
I am in the calling camp.
We know that the call is + EV, since we have direct odds to call 15 in a 96 pot. And we might even extract more if we hit. If we miss we are last to act and can make decisions based on their actions. [Lets say shorty pushes for 37, we get 1:4 if BB folds , we get 1:5 if BB calls, and of course worse if BB pushes]
It is pretty straight forward and since we have the advantage of knowing both what card fell on the turn (i.e. obvious fold if board pairs), and villains actions, we are in a good situation.
If we push here, we take away our advantage of beeing last to act on the turn, and we do not know if it is higher or lower EV. Basically I would have higher variance, without knowing if I have a higher EV.
Hence I would just call
We know that the call is + EV, since we have direct odds to call 15 in a 96 pot. And we might even extract more if we hit. If we miss we are last to act and can make decisions based on their actions. [Lets say shorty pushes for 37, we get 1:4 if BB folds , we get 1:5 if BB calls, and of course worse if BB pushes]
It is pretty straight forward and since we have the advantage of knowing both what card fell on the turn (i.e. obvious fold if board pairs), and villains actions, we are in a good situation.
If we push here, we take away our advantage of beeing last to act on the turn, and we do not know if it is higher or lower EV. Basically I would have higher variance, without knowing if I have a higher EV.
Hence I would just call
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by Zmej » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:47 am
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by DoctorHandles » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:08 pm
Since SB is so short I'd call, otherwise I'd obviously push.
The better player should win the race. Always.
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