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PLO8 Top Pair, 2nd Low Draw

Postby Phil153 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:58 am

Background: UTG is rational, creative, and capable of making a move. Previous hand she folded a large c-bet to my check raise. Short stack is a gambler with any four.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $188.07
CO: $65.20
Button: $211.40
Hero: $483.35
BB: $346.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with [Ah] [Qh] [3s] [7s]
UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: [8h] [4s] [Qd] ($16, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $15.2, CO calls, Hero raises to $76, BB folds, UTG raises all-in $184.07, CO calls all-in $46, Hero calls.

Turn: [5h] ($475.74, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $199.6, Sidepot 1: $276.14)


River: [Jd] ($475.74, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $199.6, Sidepot 1: $276.14)


Results:
Final pot: $475.74

Interested in your thoughts.

Hand reading help for beginners & Kuso: I have top pair, second nut low draw, and two backdoor flush draws :roll: :lol:
Last edited by Phil153 on Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: PLO8 Top Pair, 2nd Low Draw

Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:59 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:04 am

wwcrd?

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Postby GooperMC » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:25 am

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby JDLush » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:36 am

I like the move if not for CO flatcalling the flop bet by UTG. With only $50 left behind it's not likely that CO is folding, so you are 3 way for the main pot. If UTG calls your raise (probably a 50/50 shot based on your read of him/her) then you have to assume you are toast at least one way, meaning a possible split with UTG in the side pot, and poor chances in the main.

All that being said, you would have gotten all in on the turn anyway, so it's likely a moot point.

I would just prefer to do that when there's a chance of getting heads up (when iffy 2 way hands have a ton more value).
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Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:57 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Phil153 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:17 am

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Postby Mendacious » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:59 am

My thoughts? I am not sure I normally play that hand for a check raise on the flop, but I don't hate the play either. Once you have check raised it seems pretty likely you will have odds to call the re-raise. This is the type of play I might only make if I were already stuck a buy-in or two and was looking to generate some big pots and action.

I would expect to come out slightly behind on this hand most of the time, and occaisionally take down a big one.
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Postby januarymute » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:29 am

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Re: PLO8 Top Pair, 2nd Low Draw

Postby TomG » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:27 am

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Postby Phil153 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:05 pm

UTG had A248 for bottom two + nut low draw and was a moderate favorite. Short stack had 356K for the gutshot.

Looks like this move was slightly -EV
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Postby davebreal » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:31 am

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Postby Phil153 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:55 am

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