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Postby kennyg » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:05 am

I should have lead this flop and 3 bet all in... but i didn't. beyond that what is the optimal play once I check?

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $737.40
CO: $1208.50
Button: $300.00
SB: $948.00
Hero: $1863.29

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with [Kd] [Qd]
UTG folds, CO raises to $40, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: [Kc] [5d] [4d] ($125, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $95, Button calls, Hero's action?

I have a good read on CO who has about $1070 left. He is TAG and will fold AK and KQ (not to mention all the random hands he may hold) to significant action. Button sucks and is short.. he doesn't concern me.

My options:
1. call
2. push
3. raise to 4 or 500
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Postby Zmej » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:14 am

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Postby adamh » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:48 pm

mets better step it up
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Postby kennyg » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:06 pm

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:21 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Improbable » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:10 pm

I want action all the time with this hand Kenny..

I raise $200 ($300 Max) to CO...

If CO pushes i instant call, If CO calls then pretty much any turn card is pushable

You are only 50/50 worst against AK/AA, in fact you would rather OOP have AA.
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Postby kennyg » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:16 pm

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:59 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:16 pm

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Postby Stoneburg » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:20 am

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Postby ua1176 » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:25 am

kenny-

on this specific flop i don't like a bet/3-bet all in. if CO raises you (and if your read is right), he'll have AA, AK, or KK...maybe occasionally a lower set, and then some of your outs are not really outs. at 5/10 shorthanded i don't think you can count on him giving you credit for a set.

i like a CR only if you think CO calls your raise with diamonds. i don't think he'll ever fold better hands to a flop CR on this board.

i actuallly think check/call is best on the flop. makes it real easy for him to put you on the naked flush draw and fire a 2nd barrel on the turn. if the turn is a [d] or a Q i would lead.....anything else i'd probably check/call again.

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Postby poker2006 » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:32 am

Pretty tough spot oop. If you push he will often call with AK and fold hands that you beat, you're showing a lot of strength.

I might consider a check, callin a push if you feel you're good, depending on his timing, etc. There aren't many cards that hurt you if you're ahead with TP, and you might induce a bluff from QQ/JJ/TT.
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Postby Stoneburg » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:42 am

Hero is pretty much coinflipping against AK so even if opponent has AK every time and calls every time it won't be -EV.
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Postby ua1176 » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:54 am

11 outs (10 if villain has [Ad] ) is not exactly a coinflip.

what's more important is that the typical 5/10 TAG's open-raising range from the CO is largely comprised of hands that are drawing to 2 outs or to runner-runner. if we can get him to fire a 2nd barrel....that's sweet. if we can see more cards before getting all-in some of those times when we're significantly behind to a set, that's good too.

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