Me and opponent both have double stacks. He hasn't been here long and the only read I have is that a few hands ago he open-limped on the button with A4o and called down my two bets with an Ace on a mono board (I was semibluffing with an OESD+FD).
I limp KK UTG, there's 3 callers and then villain in the BB raises to $4. I re-raise to $16 and he is the only caller.
Flop comes 345 rainbow. He checks, I pot it at $40 or so, he check/raises all-in. Call or fold?
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by Zmej » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:34 pm
That's why I don't like limp-reraise, you pretty much telegraph your hand.
If you were against a decent player I would recommend to instafold, as you are against AA or better here.
Against a fish it's a bit harder, but IMO fold is still correct, anyone with half-brain would put you on QQ+ overpair here.
If you were against a decent player I would recommend to instafold, as you are against AA or better here.
Against a fish it's a bit harder, but IMO fold is still correct, anyone with half-brain would put you on QQ+ overpair here.
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by black_knight6 » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:16 am
call...you see an overpair that you crush here a LOT...you only fear AA and they usually 4 bet pf.
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by High Wired » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:30 pm
I am pretty sure I am with the school of thought going against limp/re-raising UTG with big pairs for the reason that Z stated... it allows the villian to narrow your range to about 4 or 5 hands tops.
In this hand I guess he's either making the move with an inferior pp praying you have AK, one of the 4 or 5 hands, or he has a pocket pair with an OESD and is taking a shot figuring your probably going to call with your large overpair, utilizing the push to call some FE into the hand. A set is always a potential but I don't think he has that here.
Unfortunately, this "never raise UTG" concept, which strikes me as quite odd, may have cost you big time on this hand.
What is your reasoning for never raising under the gun? I could see doing it rarely, or even occasionally, but never dosen't sound like a winning strategy to me.
Also, is this FR or 6max? You didn't state it. I suppose if it is FR I might be able to possibly see your thinking behind never raising UTG. Maybe.
If you play 6max and never raise UTG I think thats a big leak in your game imo.
In this hand I guess he's either making the move with an inferior pp praying you have AK, one of the 4 or 5 hands, or he has a pocket pair with an OESD and is taking a shot figuring your probably going to call with your large overpair, utilizing the push to call some FE into the hand. A set is always a potential but I don't think he has that here.
Unfortunately, this "never raise UTG" concept, which strikes me as quite odd, may have cost you big time on this hand.
What is your reasoning for never raising under the gun? I could see doing it rarely, or even occasionally, but never dosen't sound like a winning strategy to me.
Also, is this FR or 6max? You didn't state it. I suppose if it is FR I might be able to possibly see your thinking behind never raising UTG. Maybe.
If you play 6max and never raise UTG I think thats a big leak in your game imo.
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by Zmej » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:32 am
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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