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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:17 am

$1/$2 NL at Prima

2 limpers and I limp on the button with [9s][8s]. I raise this 80% of the time but limped this time. Both blinds play.

Pot $10. Flop [Ah][7s][6s]. SB checks, BB ($212) bets $10. Folded to me. I cover him and raise to $30. He calls.

Pot $70 Turn [5s] :shock: :shock: . I think this is what they refer to as "the nuts", right?" He checks, what do i do?
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:08 pm

You think he'll call $50 if he only has a high [s]? Or if he only has an ace?
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:31 pm

I didnt check. You know full well I didnt.

I also would never have AK here, so lets change that to "what would I do with 77?"

I would bet $50 but thats because I want to bet the most that I think he will call whule still giving him incorrect odds to draw if hes drawing.

In this case, he cant outdraw me so i want to bet as much as I think he'll call.....OR an amount that he might think Im scared of the flush and check raise me.

I bet $24.
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Postby Bosox1 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:36 pm

The range of hands that he might bet $10 and call $20 on the flop is pretty wide. He might have A with a 234, maybe the A of spades, maybe one pair, maybe two pair, maybe he has 98 and made a straight. With no read I think any of these hands are reasonable.

It's also not too easy for him to put you on a hand, since you limped preflop and raised post, I'd say he puts you on two pair or a draw. If he puts you on a draw you just made it with the turn and he's not putting in any more $. If he puts you on 2 pair he might move in over the top of your bet on the turn hoping to push you off because the 5 was a scare card, especially if he has A3 or something where he'll have a few outs to make a better 2 pair.

Conslusion, since you can't put him on a hand that is likely to become a monster on the river, you must bet. If he has nothing he isn't going to improve and you aren't getting anything out of him. You raised on the flop, what is the likelyhood that he bluffs at the river? Small. What is the likelyhood of him calling your raise of his bluff on the river? smaller. If he has a hand, he'll call or hopefully raise your bet on the turn. And if he has a draw he may call anyway. The only chance you have for his stack is by betting.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:05 pm

OK, if you were the BB and had something like [As][Th] or [As][Qd]. Would you check / call $50?

What if you had [7d][6d]?
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Postby shamdonk » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:23 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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