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KQ misses flop, turns top pair ($200NL 6-max)

Postby ua1176 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:10 am

$200NL 6-max @ Tribeca

i raise [Kh][Qh] UTG to $8. CO calls, villain calls in BB. new players/no real reads. seem on the loose and passive side of things. BB has $130, CO has $180, and i cover.

flop: [8d][6c][5c]
pot: $24

check, i bet $21, CO folds, BB calls.

turn: [Qd]
pot: $66

villain checks. he has $100 or so left. check or bet?
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Postby NorthView » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:39 am

Tricky. If he's a loose passive shorty I think you're ahead most of the time, and when he has something like 65 you still have some outs. You're only in trouble against a set or monster draw or unlikely hands like AA/KK or straights, and he's given no sign of strength other than floating you OOP as they do at Tribeca.

There are too many scare cards that can fall, so I'm probably shoving here and expecting calls from 77/A8, overpairs and some clubs too, as well as hands you lose to. TPGK looks good enough of the time for 65BB against this guy.
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Postby Xaston » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:57 am

I'm all in.
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Postby Zmej » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:37 am

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"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:06 am

You really shouldnt just flat out eliminate open limping as a possible option, but I would also raise here preflop.

I also wouldnt CB this flop into 2 guys

As played, I would also shove in. If the flop had been something more like generic like [Jd][8c][4s], I would check behind and raise alot of rivers all in when he bets.
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Postby ua1176 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:52 pm

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Postby black_knight6 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:26 pm

Bet and call the push.

edit: I read your results now: I think you played the hand well: I pfr this, make the cb, and bet that turn/call the shortie. If he were full and made the raise, I'd prolly fold since I wouldn't put him on a draw...if he cr'd the flop, it'd be harder if you had something like QQ since he could easily make that play with a pr+draw or combo draw.
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