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Postby JDLush » Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:24 pm

Villain is in mega tilt here. He's a little prone to it anyway and is not afraid to make a move. How much does the short stack effect your decision making process?

PokerStars Game #8837966230: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/03/10 - 18:15:16 (ET)
Table 'Justitia III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Fandango ($195.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Ellendeling ($184 in chips)
Seat 3: Frischmann ($75 in chips)
Seat 4: Banker4U69 ($208.60 in chips)
Seat 5: JDLush ($199.55 in chips)
Seat 6: TheStrength ($194 in chips)
Seat 7: mustafa ($333.25 in chips)
Seat 8: nikii ($72.90 in chips)
Seat 9: elgrundo ($103.80 in chips)
Fandango: posts small blind $1
Ellendeling: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JDLush [7h Ah 2s Ks]
Frischmann: calls $2
Banker4U69: folds
JDLush: calls $2
TheStrength: folds
mustafa: calls $2
nikii: calls $2
elgrundo: raises $2 to $4
Fandango: folds
Ellendeling: calls $2
Frischmann: calls $2
JDLush: calls $2
mustafa: calls $2
nikii: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [As Kh 3d]
Ellendeling: checks
Frischmann: checks
Fandango said, "ut oh juice flop"
JDLush: bets $14
mustafa: folds
nikii: calls $14
elgrundo: raises $85.80 to $99.80 and is all-in
Ellendeling: folds
Frischmann: folds
JDLush: ?
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:26 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby MattSk » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:14 pm

You have a strong hand with top two pair, two backdoor flush draws and a low draw. I would call the raise everytime against two short stacks. Heads up against a full stack I would probabaly raise all-in too because only a set together with a better low draw would have you crushed.

If second villain who called your initial bet have a full stack the decision becomes more involved and you should consider which hands she flat calls with and how often she will fold to an all-in.

By the way with this kind of hand in early position (especially against an opponent on tilt) my prefered line on the flop is a check-raise.
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:45 pm

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:14 pm

since nikii is short, too, i find this to be a fairly easy call. that being said, i'd like to know more about the two villains (that could change a lot). i think you can fold to decrease variance, but i think you're giving up EV (but not that much for this level).

whether to bet out or CR on the flop depends a lot on the table texture... esp whether you think anyone will bet for you.
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:20 pm

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:30 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby JDLush » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:07 am

Well, it ends up that the shorty was pretty much drawing dead with 3478 or some crap like that (she did call after I did).

Elgrundo had 245x and of course the turn and river came 6-7 and he scooped. Turns out he was a 52/48 fav over me heads up, but in the 3 way pot it was something like 50/45/5 for him/me/her IIRC.

I think I should have reraised all in preflop and would likely have taken it down there, and I'd have checkraised but wasn't sure the flop was getting bet or not so I figured I'd throw one out there.
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