Come back to what you know-oh-oh.

[DODGYKEN]

I played a bit of $25PLO on Full Tilt today after not having played PLO for a while. I played 6-max and have a few questions on some hands I played. I'll only post 2 at a time and i'll wait till I have answers for one before posting the next 2 as I don't want to post too many at once!

Hand 1: I raise quite a lot pre-flop at 6-handed so I'm not worried about that! Would you be calling the river here or folding?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
3 players


Stack sizes:
DODGYKEN: $24.20
SB: $31.30
BB: $37.40

Pre-flop: (3 players) DODGYKEN is Button with
DODGYKEN raises to $0.85, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: ($2.55, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.25, DODGYKEN raises to $3.3, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: ($9.15, 2 players)
BB checks, DODGYKEN bets $9.15, BB calls.

River: ($27.45, 2 players)
BB is all-in $24.1



Hand 2: Obviously I have a great hand on the flop here. Would you bet the turn into my opponent or would you check it?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $44.40
CO: $9.90
Button: $5
DODGYKEN: $110.20
BB: $9.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) DODGYKEN is SB with
UTG raises to $0.85, CO calls, Button folds, DODGYKEN calls, BB calls.

Flop: ($3.4, 4 players)
DODGYKEN checks, BB checks, UTG bets $3.4, CO folds, DODGYKEN raises to $13.6, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: ($30.6, 2 players)




Thanks,

Martin

[Ojingo]

Hand 1 is a fold; even against a bluffy opponent it's hard to see him having anything less than a flush often enough here to make calling profitable.

Hand 2: There's exactly one pot bet left; flop play is a bit ambiguous. If he has a straight then it's hard to understand why he didn't push the flop with these stack sizes, but he may want to "wait for the safe turn" even though that seems suboptimal to me, unless he thinks you're currently splitting and wants to keep options for the turn.

Based on odds alone he cannot call your raise with a set or with a flush draw. So: he is either unaware of odds (possible, but real calling stations don't tend to lead out with draws) or he thinks that he has enough implied odds (you tell me) or he is sophisticated and knows that, in addition to his real outs he has bluffing outs. Given that he's playing short, I doubt he's that sophisticated.

Against an unknown I think I prefer a check here. If he pushes, I would be more inclined to call, since most people would milk a boat more. If he checks behind and the river is a brick, I would probably bet small and fold to a raise.

Difficult hand because in order to play optimally you really have to know your opponent.
I can easily imagine opponents against which you have to push this turn or check-call a push, if only to prevent them to try to outplay you too often.

[briachek]

utg is not playing short, its a 25 game and utg has 44.

[Rhound50]

Hand 1: Vomit and fold, very little chance he is pushing without a flush, this hand just sucks.

Hand 2: Tough one here. I prolly check and see what he does. This is really read dependant do you have any kind of read on player, if he is a rock I think you have to fold to a pot bet.

[Felonius_Monk]

I refuse to respond to any material referencing Embrace in the title.

[Felonius_Monk]

Erm, but wb and all. Where you living now MC?

[DODGYKEN]

I knew you'd understand the title Monk!

Living down in Swanwick, Derbyshire (in the middle of a pentagon made up of [going anti-clockwise from the top] Chesterfield, Matlock, Derby, Nottingham and Mandfield)!

I've not been able to play poker as seriously for the last couple of years because my job's been fairly demanding. I'm getting back into it properly now though! Mainly playing $100NL 6-max at the mo, but i'm gonna be throwing some PLO in there too.

I just posted some other hands too - with a much better reference in the title!

MC

[Felonius_Monk]

[GooperMC]

Hand 1:
That looks like a FD that hit and wants to get paid off. Puke and fold.

Hand 2:
Check and see what happens. Most likely I fold to a bet unless the opponent is bluffy. If he checks behind I lead almost all rivers.

[GooperMC]

Dup post

[DODGYKEN]

Thanks for all the replys.

The first hand I did fold so I never saw what he had. Hard to believe I was winning there though.

Second hand I checked and he checked behind. The river was another 8, which was horrible for me. I thought he may well have AA from what i'd seen of him so far. I couldn't see how I could bet the river - it would basically be a bluff and I didn't think he'd fold - so I checked, he bet a fairly large amount and I had to fold.

[Felonius_Monk]