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Postby DODGYKEN » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:49 pm

Do I call in these hands or fold? (Anyone get the title reference?)

Hand 1:

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $15.95
DODGYKEN: $51.40
SB: $11
BB: $29.35

Pre-flop: (4 players) DODGYKEN is Button with [Kd] [4s] [Ks] [9d]
UTG folds, DODGYKEN raises to $0.85, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: [3s] [8d] [5c] ($2.55, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, DODGYKEN bets $2.55, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: [Qs] ($10.2, 3 players)
SB is all-in $7.6, BB folds, DODGYKEN ???



Hand 2:

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.35
UTG+1: $14.25
DODGYKEN: $33.35
Button: $8.15
SB: $24.75
BB: $24.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) DODGYKEN is CO with [Ks] [Ac] [9s] [Tc]
UTG raises to $0.85, UTG+1 folds, DODGYKEN calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: [Ah] [8c] [3c] ($2.65, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, DODGYKEN bets $2.65, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: [Js] ($7.95, 2 players)
BB checks, DODGYKEN bets $7.95, BB raises all-in $21.35, DODGYKEN ???



Hand 3:

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $11.70
UTG+1: $13.45
DODGYKEN: $25
Button: $19.50
SB: $96
BB: $19.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) DODGYKEN is CO with [As] [4s] [Jc] [Ad]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, DODGYKEN raises to $1.35, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, 2 folds.

Flop: [7s] [6s] [4c] ($5.9, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, DODGYKEN checks, Button bets $3.75, SB calls, BB folds, DODGYKEN calls.

Turn: [Jd] ($17.15, 3 players)
SB checks, DODGYKEN checks, Button bets $7.5, SB calls, DODGYKEN calls.

River: [9h] ($39.65, 3 players)
SB checks, DODGYKEN checks, Button is all-in $6.9, SB folds, DODGYKEN ???
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:43 pm

The Monkman J[c]

"Informer, you no say daddy me snow me Ill go blame,
A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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Postby Aisthesis » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:09 pm

hand 1: I fold.

hand 2: I call. Is it really that close, Monk? open-ender plus nut flush draw... and not quite a full bet to call? Well, I suppose it's 14 outs.

hand 3: Ugh... :( I hate the situation. CR the flop (given the weak bet particularly)? check-fold the flop? I'm not excited about the check-call line anyway...
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Postby DODGYKEN » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:41 am

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Postby pokerzen » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:00 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:08 am

The Monkman J[c]

"Informer, you no say daddy me snow me Ill go blame,
A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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Postby Aisthesis » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:10 am

Monk's calculation method is definitely good, but I'll just tack on some additional stuff.

What I've been doing is plugging in the twodimes info into an Excel spreadsheet on various hands. I have a column for "win 1" (hand 1 wins), "win 2" and "split." Then there are column that gives total equity for both hands (Eq 1 = win 1 + split/2, etc.). That gives the same total percentages as twodimes already gives you back, but you see the breakdown better. Then I have a final column that gives the odds as 1.8:1, 2.5:1 or whatever (odds = Eq 1/Eq 2). Note that to make this work, you have to always put the favorite hand first in your spreadsheet. Then just plugging in win 1, win 2 and split will give you back the rest of the numbers.

Anyhow, if you do that for a while every time you see an interesting matchup, you eventually just more or less know which hand is favorite and by roughly how much.
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Postby pokerzen » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:46 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby DODGYKEN » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:31 am

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Postby pokerzen » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:45 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby Ojingo » Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:52 am

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