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Tough River Decision (NL $100 6-Max)

Postby DoctorHandles » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:26 pm

No reads, effective stacks $120.

1. I raise to $4 in mp with [Kc][Ks]. SB calls.
2. Flop [7c][5h][2s], pot $8. SB leads $7 I call.
3. Turn comes [2h], pot $22. SB leads $14, I call.
4. River comes [Qh], pot $50. SB checks, I bet $34, SB CRAI for about $60 more.

I'm getting better than 2:1 but I think I see [6h][8h] or [7h][8h] a lot. I debated raising the turn, but decided there was absolutely no value in it at all (BB did not seem horrible and I think would fold 88 or 99 and 3-bet TT+ preflop). Help?
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Postby droqqa » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:30 pm

River CR's are so very rarely bluffs @ this level - this is a fold.

Personally, I would raise the turn or the flop b/c I would do so with air against a tight villian.

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Re: Tough River Decision (NL $100 6-Max)

Postby Zmej » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:48 pm

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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Postby shamdonk » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:06 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby DoctorHandles » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:20 pm

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Postby ua1176 » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:23 pm

i probably raise the turn.

as played im not sure how i feel about the river bet...i could go either way.

definitely have to fold to the river CR though.
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Postby JimmyJet » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:33 pm

Meh, call me too aggressive but I raise more preflop, and raise the flop. I'd raise the turn again and once another call came I'm done with the hand. The two calls on the flop and turn are a little too passive for me and the check by villian on the river stinks to high heaven of a set turned boat who's trying to act scared of the flush. Check the river yes.

Whoever said 77 or 55, I agree with.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:47 pm

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Postby ua1176 » Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:59 pm

if your range is narrow (which i dont think it is. you could conceivably play a set this way at least some of the time, or [8h][6h])......but IF your range is this narrow...then you still fold to a shove absent any read to the contrary, because the players at $100NL who are good enough to read you for KK aren't gonna expect you to fold it on that turn.

if the guy's a bluffing maniac or one of the super-aggro 22/20 cardrunners types....you'll know that, and you can call a turn shove.

otherwise.....no.
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Postby shamdonk » Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:12 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby Zmej » Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:55 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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