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Postby GodlikeRoy » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:18 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby DoctorHandles » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:32 pm

Wow this is kinda what I was asking/wondering about with the hand I posted earlier, great job dude.

Two Questions though:

1) In your example #1, we'd still raise without a gutshot yes?

2) Isn't it better to float on a lot of YYX boards in position and take it away on the turn? If the flop comes [Jc][Jh][3d], for example. Obviously we need to raise flop on [4d][5s][5d], but do on a dry YYX board?
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Postby T-Rod » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:35 pm

Excellent article and you pretty much described how and why I play Prima
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Postby doublepro » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:37 pm

*bows down to roy's Godliness
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Postby hard2tel » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:39 pm

tl;dr

ok i did read the first couple examples..good stuff. Obligatory f u for giving away secrets etc etc.
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Postby Xaston » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:10 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby black_knight6 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:15 pm

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:15 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby shamdonk » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:58 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


(9:00:09 PM) GodlikeRoy: i think you could prolly post total shit for the next 2 years aaaaand like 192 days and you'll still be considered 'posting good' cause of your threads that'll never be seen thread
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:34 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:58 am

Nice post. The only thing I question is the example of raising the XXY flop. I think most regulars wont believe you and if they have a big pair, they arent folding.

Most people would just flat call with QJ on a JJ6 flop in a raised pot. So if the preflop raiser has a big pair or a J, youre in trouble. If he has AQ, the he will fold, but in that case you couldve just called the flop CB and taken it away on the turn most times.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:01 am

You're right. But some regulars will believe you, or they won't have the guts to back up their read and play for stacks with an overpair. It's identifying which type of regular is which and making the appropriate play against that will make you the money.
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Postby T-Rod » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:21 am

Here's the real beauty of this style of play. You are being selectively aggressive on XXY flops or flops where you can thump his non-connected CB.

This in turn leads people to start to doubt that you have a hand as you do this repeatedly. You start to lose fold equity against some opponents. That's fine.

Okay, so you've been raising without any real hand, and now you have a real hand. They are more likely to pay you off now as they've seen you raising before and are probalby looking to at least see a showdown with you.

I've gotten rocks to get it in with TPTK against me in this type scenario and its without me having to play crazy LAG/Maniac.

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