W$SF 6max

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[Xaston]

Wtf is a CR donk?

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Player who plays by the Card Runners script (without having the post-flop reading skills a good LAG needs, so they lose their money fast...). They play 22/15 or whatever and don't understand why they keep losing. At my stakes probably the majority of 22/15 players are losers.

Thus they always open raise, almost always raise any limpers and with the vig 2 and 3 barrel away unless you raise em back. Their range from LP is huge of course...

They are ideal to limp to with premium hands and come over the top or to occasionally 3 bet from the blinds.

[AlexMR]

I dont think it is meaningless to discuss this, BK. Yesterday I lost 6buy ins and only was stacked once. This was another awful and very rare day where i just couldnt hit anything. The biggest hand I won was a 25pot and I was playing %50NL.

I suggested excession that I might be doing something very wrong in the small pots because checking the big ones, the ones where there is not a slim call/push based on a read or donkness, seems pretty standard to me. I cant remember any very difficult hand ithat i've played recently. It all seems standard at the tables because i dont get in that many difficult spots. I post ther itchy hands sometimes and i get "standard".

My W$WSF is 38%. Yesterday all the stats just didnt make any sense. I am not 18/12 anymore. I am more like 21/12/3, but i wasnt bein dealt anythng playable and there was a point where i was running at 16/4/2.5 with w$wsf 20% and wtsd 14%, w$sd 36%.

I am playign ipoker and i am expecting the w$wsf to be even less than 38% because they are all floaters, or more than floaters calling stations. Today after starting losing 5buy ins, I ended up 20bucks (2.2ptbb/100) and my w$wsf is only 33%.

I have recently lowered my aggression and it is possible that i might have lowered it too much. I dont know. I just cant say that my problem is not getting action. They call me way more than what i would like (which might sound weird but i was really aggro and didnt adjust accordingly when they picked on it.)

T-Rod has sit with me too. Ask him if he thinks I was being anything close to weak.

[AlexMR]

I forgot to mention that I played 2K hands yesterday. The biggest pot was $25. The only one where i got stacked was when i flopped a set of 3s and the other guy flpped top set of Ts.

[black_knight6]

Losing sessions are when you lose a lot of medium pots and lose a few big pots...the REALLY bad ones are when you aren't winning nearly any medium/large pots.

I just don't find W$WSF to be very useful independent of looking at 1) VPIP/pfr pair and 2) AF by street. People who have something like 22/16 and a flop AF around 5 are going to have a huge W$WSF...most of their hands aren't getting past the turn, but a more passive person will have lower W$WSF because they aren't pushing their fold equity.

Which is more EV has nothing to do with W$WSF though...it's all the other things. W$WSF is the RESULT of the other factors of one's game...it's NOT something that you try to adjust...you adjust other parts of your game (looking for MORE EV) and wherever W$WSF ends up, is where it ends up. It's pretty meaningless.

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[GodlikeRoy]

[dropthe72]

[RedBarracuda]

[Trump34]

[oatmealforxmas]

I ran good over June, 10ptbb/100 for about 20k hands. My Won$WSF was 31% at 25nl and 35% at 50nl. I played about 18/10 and my aggression by street was about 4/2/1.25

My won at showdown was about 58%.

I guess winrate is the most important of these stats?

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[AlexMR]

[Kuso]