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Postby iceman5 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:27 pm

So Im playing "action man". The dude is an absolute wildcard. He will call a $35 raise blind. He will raise to $50 after a straddler without looking. Hes semi decent post flop. Hes not in the least litte bit afraid to move chips. He will never fold TP unless the board is horrific for it. His kicker is of no consequence if the pot is big...trust me.

2 limpers and he raises to $30 with 33 on the button. (Yes I saw his cards). He says "I raise my pocket pair to $30".

It makes no difference what I have here so I wont say, but I repop him to $100 from the SB. Lets just say that I have absolute garbage and that I know hes going to call my reraise. It folds to him and he calls.

Pot $215. Flop [Jh][Tc][6d]. Effective stacks are about $400. Whats my best play from here?

Hint: He has the best hand right now. I have no pair and no draw.
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Postby Xaston » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:26 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Spank_her_Pair » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:23 am

Is this action man... Tony i think is his name. Kinda big guy with blondish hair and always wears overalls. Also, he like to leave the table every other hour. If so... and im pretty positive its the same guy. Ive played with him last night sunday (and other times before). The hilarious part of his game is that he will raise say 95o to $50 dollars, but then I saw him limp in (once OTB) with QQ, and AA twice.

If you were deeper, it would be vey easy to play. You just bet the flop, turn and river if necessary he wouldnt call all the way down with an underpair.

Since you only have $400, you have to devise a plan to ensure a fold. He is unpredictable enough to go possibly bluff allin making you unable to call. I would bet $100 on the flop. (hoping he doesnt be a donk and shove for some reaon). To that bet he may fold or call. If he calls i then push the turn allin for $300. I dont see him calling that. The reason i take that line is because if you bet say $150 on the flop and he decides to call, then you dont have much to fire on the turn.
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Postby iceman5 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:44 am

Yes its a full table, but Im not sure why that matters. Once I reraised him from the blind, its highly unlikely someone is going to cold call me so we will be heads up.

Yes, its Tony and yes the bastard keeps leaving the table. He normally leaves alot but this time he was playing 4 hands and leaving for 45 mins over and over again. If he hadnt, I wouldve busted him and his whole family, as many times as I saw his cards.
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Postby iceman5 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:58 am

Come on, this has to be more interesting than 2 replies doesnt it?
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Postby kennyg » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:06 am

I was going to say check-raise but he might just push. i say lead an amount that's unbluffable. Bet $275... he can't expect you to fold for $125 more, and his pair is dubious at best.
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Postby iceman5 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:42 am

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Postby Notorious_JC » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:50 am

I've lost a lot of $ against "donkeys" that called me with bottom pr when I was making a play. I'm just saying if he's that bad you'll wind up with his chips if you don't do anything stupid. You sound impatient that you are not getting them soon enough, and are potentially making mistakes trying to do it so soon. Don't be the chump at the table saying "How can you make that call?!!!" :P

One stab is fine (getting 2 or 3:1), but after that the ballgame is over IMO. It sounds like you are willing to felt making a play because you know he has 33, I'm just saying it's a risky move because he's not a good player (he's an action junkie). Those guys LIVE for the times they make horrible plays and it works out. That horrible call is an opportunity to bust you, and you have nothing (not even a draw). At least have SOMETHING to fall back on (8 or more outs IMO).

Remember, playing more than 1 level above your opponent is a mistake, because they do not understand the stuff you are doing, and they invariably make the right play for the wrong reasons.

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Postby dennerman » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:52 am

Normal bets don't seem to scare him so you'd have to make the bet bigger than pot sized. Push it all in if you're sure he'll fold. If he's crazy enough to call then I wouldn't put another dime in the pot. Personally if I had seem him fold to any bets at all during the session I'd put all my chips in counting on a tight table image and three overcards to make him lay it down. If I've seen him make bad calls with low pairs then I don't make another bet.
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Postby LuparFiend » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:58 am

In this situation, I would bet pot, or just shove (Leaning towards around pot).

if he calls you, then he can see your no pair/no draw and you will get lots of action here on out.

Did you RR PF to isolate? Do you think that if you flat call PF, the other limpers come along?
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Re: It makes no difference what I have...

Postby Notorious_JC » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:16 am

pot $215, you have $300 (so does he). Any decent bet is $150+ (half your stack at the minimum). If you think he'll call 1/3 of the time or more, your bet is spew. If you shove, he calls $300 to win $500ish. Will he call this 38% of the time or more? Is this guy going to fold 2/3 of the time to your bet/shove in this spot? From the sound of it he's not.

I'm just saying this guy is a loose cannon and you have to watch out. Liken it to making this play on the .01/.02 table against the normal donkey, from your description of him. Good players make laydowns, bad players make bad calls. Everyday I watch guys say things like "I represented the top set and you called me the whole way!!!????, as the donkey pulls in the pot with middle pr.

It IS true you'll get a ton of action on your future hands if you have to show your cards. :D

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Re: It makes no difference what I have...

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Postby iceman5 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:32 am

I misspoke in the OP. Effective stacks are $400 MORE after the preflop $100 reraise.

Yes, I reraised him to isolate and yes, if I call the $30, other people will call. Im not calling $30 OOP with my Q7. Thats insane.

This guy isnt a total moron. For example...if I shove the flop, hes not calling with 3. Never.

I could bet $100 and I think he folds 3/4 of the time. If he does call, I can shove the turn and I REALLY doubt he calls.

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