Do we like shoving here or calling? (NL$100 6-max)

[DoctorHandles]

Villain runs at 23/19. Seems good and aggressive. Full stacks.

1. I raise [Th] to $4 from the CO, button calls and blinds fold.

2. Flop [4h][3c], pot $9. I lead $8, button raises to $26, hero does what?

I feel like his range is fairly wide here and he's taking a free turn almost always when I check to him and he's behind.

I know my 3 options are shoving, calling and donking a favorable turn, and CRAI but what is best here?

[Zmej]

[stickdude]

[k3nt]

This is way too marginal to continue with. I'm folding.

If he's good and aggro and has position on you, then after I fold I'm switching tables ASAP. Table selection is super important. John Vorhaus said something like, "Don't go to war with good players, go to war with bad players. That's what they're there for." Words to live by.

[stickdude]

[DoctorHandles]

Zmej, I'm not sure if you personally favor folding here or just want to know why I don't consider it, but I'll try to go into detail.

My attempt to steal is just shy of 40%. TT makes up the top of my opening range, and I got a very favorable flop for it. If I am folding TT here, it is going to be ridiculously profitable for my opponent (who is in this case good) to just raise me with any two here. I don't want to do the exact math of it here, but since my opponent is risking $26 to win $17, I have to fold 65.3% of the time for him to show an immediate profit (that's not even counting if there are any hands I would call with and give him +EV opportunities to turn or river me). If I'm folding TT here I'm folding WELL above 65.3% of my range.

There is about a 0% chance my opponent has JJ+. If I'm beat, it's because of a set. I run at about 20/16, and I regularly call CO raises on the button with suited connectors and suited big cards like [Jh], for example. I would imagine these in in my opponents range, as well as various gutshots and air.

Granted, I'm not crushing a range of sets/all kinds of draws/air. But my hand is vulnerable to semi-bluffs or even total bluffs that have 3 or 6 outs, and there's enough dead money in the pot ($61 once I call) that I can't be all too worried about not getting money from many worse hands.

Either way, I'm not really trying to optimize my play or anything (though I do think about this stuff as I'm starting to take cards more seriously), I just don't think his range is pp's lower than 9's, and I don't think he's incapable of bluffing. If he was 16/10 then I would most likely strongly consider folding.

I know you know all of this Zmej and were probably just leveling me to try to either see if I could explain it or trying to make me answer my own question (for'ners are deep like that). Would you fold against this villain Zmej? If you would fold as some of you guys have already said, what're you doing with AA here?

[k3nt]

[GodlikeRoy]

[Zmej]

[T-Rod]

[DoctorHandles]

I agree with what you said Zmej, and the more I think about it the less I like a call. Being oop sucks horribly here. The more I think about it I'm leaning towards Shove>Fold>>>>>>>Call, largely because I attempt to steal so much from the CO and feel the need to throw it down here against a good opponent.

I also strongly agree that TT definetly does NOT equal AA here for the reasons you stated. If I get it in against a hand like [Qh], he's drawing to 15 outs against my TT, but only 9 against AA. This is a very big deal here with such a close decision. I've almost never seen JJ+ shown here from a good opponent, so I can't really agree with you on that but even 100,000 hands is a small sample for something like this.

T-Rod I completely agree always folding weak overpairs in raised pots > always stacking off with weak overpairs, but I don't think it's a good idea to just stick to a general rule. This is CO vs. a good aggressive Button, so I think it's much closer here. If I raised TT UTG and a taggy sb called and check-raised me on this flop I'd drop it quite quickly (even with position).

[T-Rod]

[Devbert]