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Too weak tight with KK? 25nl 6 max

Postby Jossnaz » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:32 am

Well i'm always feeling uncomfortable playing KK when there comes an ace high flop because these donks like to call with Ax. Is this play correct or simply weak tight? Most players here were pretty lose and playing something around 50/7/1


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.12/$0.25
4 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $31.92
Button: $40.04
SB: $51.89
Hero: $23.76

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with [Kc] [Kd]
UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $2, UTG calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Flop: [3h] [6h] [Ad] ($6.25, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $1.75, SB folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $1.75 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $6.25



No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.12/$0.25
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $134.57
UTG+1: $22.26
Hero: $16.28
Button: $20.09
SB: $63.77
BB: $6.84

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with [Ks] [Kh]
UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: [8s] [Qd] [Ad] ($10.12, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: [5h] ($10.12, 3 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero folds, Button calls.

River: [Qc] ($16.12, 2 players)
UTG bets $3, Button raises to $6, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: $28.12




No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.12/$0.25
5 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $15.66
CO: $67.55
Hero: $24.01
SB: $27.37
BB: $25.7

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with [Ks] [Kh]
UTG calls, CO calls, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: [7c] [Ac] [3s] ($6.37, 3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: [4d] ($6.37, 3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

River: [9c] ($6.37, 3 players)
UTG checks, CO bets $1, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Results:
Final pot: $8.37
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Postby k3nt » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:27 am

I think check/folding is too weak. Throw out a standard CB and see what they do. Maybe against 2+ and you're first to act I can agree with a check/fold.
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Postby stickdude » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:46 am

"My name is Inigo Montoya. You cracked my Aces... prepare to die"
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Postby AlexMR » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:05 pm

[17:16] alitomr: http://micropenis.ws/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723
[17:19] mekosking: wow
[17:19] mekosking: i give that poof a week tops
[17:19] mekosking: before he snuffs it
[17:19] mekosking: I THINK THAT MAY BE NV
[17:20] mekosking: IN DISGUISE
[17:20] alitomr: LOLZ
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Postby iceman5 » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:45 pm

#1) If Im UTG, Im betting any possible hand that i could have in this spot. That being the case, you cant check because you have no idea what his bet means

#2) This one isnt so bad, although I doubt i would fold to that small turn bet.

#3) Bet the turn in this hand. Its highly doubtful someone checked an ace twice with a flush draw out there. As played the river call is fine.
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Postby Jossnaz » Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:45 am

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Postby k3nt » Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:03 pm

If I'm preflop raising, then yes I'm CBetting most of the time when an A hits and there are 2 or fewer people in with me. I'm not playing my cards, I'm playing their cards, and most of the time they don't have an A and so can't call ... because I will also C-Bet AK exactly the same. Bet 2/3 to 3/4 of the pot and you have to take it down well under 50% of the time for the CB to be +EV.

If anything, it's more important to C-Bet TT than KK on an Axx flop: if you have TT then by not c-betting you give someone with a K Q or J a free chance to catch up.
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Postby RedBarracuda » Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:11 pm

If I am a PFR, then I CB 90% of the time...
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Postby AlexMR » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:32 pm

I think 90% is solid. You just need to adjust if they start foating you too often.
[17:16] alitomr: http://micropenis.ws/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723
[17:19] mekosking: wow
[17:19] mekosking: i give that poof a week tops
[17:19] mekosking: before he snuffs it
[17:19] mekosking: I THINK THAT MAY BE NV
[17:20] mekosking: IN DISGUISE
[17:20] alitomr: LOLZ
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Postby RedBarracuda » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:54 am

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(6:36:06 PM) giantgrwth: Yea
(6:36:14 PM) hard2tel45s: sweet
(6:36:30 PM) giantgrwth: He was my best friend too, lol
(6:36:48 PM) hard2tel45s: well u were in the crazy bin bro
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