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Kinda LOL spot, reraised pot (NL400 5-max)

Postby Triple B » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:09 pm

UTG (seems solid, maybe 20/15) raises to $16. I re-pop QQ to $50 in the CO. Then donks in the blinds (both VPIP > 50%) BOTH cold call! I type "lolololol" in the chat. Obv UTG calls at this point...so its 4 to the flop baby!

Flop ($200) 394 rainbow, they check to me.

Obv this is a good flop for me, and the player I am worried about (UTG) can't have AA/KK. So I bet $140 hoping a donk will pay me with JJ/TT/9x/whatever garbage they have. Donks both fold, UTG calls.

Turn 8. He checks, I check behind.

River 9. He shoves for $202 into the $480ish pot. I think its fairly unlikely he has a 9 (its in his range but not many hands raise UTG with a 9 in them) and one of his likely holdings on the flop (99) is very unlikely now. Since the cold callers came along he could definately have 33/44. 88 seems very remote/impossible.

Does my turn check ever induce a bet from TT/JJ here? Do I call because of pot odds? Do I call because I'm pot committed, and if so should I just have shoved the turn? Do I fold because villain knows I have an overpair so he must be able to beat it?
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Postby DoctorHandles » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:51 am

Super easy river call, you're good here tons.

TT/JJ are never folding on the turn, but I would bet it so they don't fold if the river comes K or A.
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Postby Rhound50 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:25 am

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Postby Cooper » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:58 am

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Postby k3nt » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:02 am

AA/KK are impossible, he would repop after those callers. You can't worry much about 99 for quads. 88 is not really possible either.

So his range is pretty much (33, 44, TT, JJ). 33 and 44 are less likely to start the hand but they sure seem more likely from how the hand has played out. With the pot odds I call.
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Postby Devbert » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:08 pm

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Postby Cooper » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:13 am

If you call the flop bet with this pot size you will be pretty much commited to go with the hand, nobody will fold an overpair for $200 into a $400 pot on the turn IMO, I see people calling with TP there on Ongame. I would probably fold TTJJ on this flop as villain as well.

Doesn't alot of people play 89s and 9Ts UTG or is it just me ?

Also if I had 33 44 here I would often take the same line as villain, I would possibly offer one street of value (turn ch/ch) because of deception and knowing I could get it all in on river anyway with 1/2 pot bet.
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Re: Kinda LOL spot, reraised pot (NL400 5-max)

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