Folding 22 and 33 PF no matter what?

[gsdavid]

[black_knight6]

Nothing wrong with dumping under-performing hands. But, why do you think you do fine with 44?

[gsdavid]

[MBuckler]

[k3nt]

How are you playing them? Do you raise 22 UTG? Maybe that's the problem? Is it possible to play limp/call (or limp/fold if the raise is too big) OOP with baby pairs? I know it seems semi-noobish and it should be readable and so forth, but at least you stay out of the situations you mentioned...?

I agree with BK, there shouldn't be a sharp distinction between 44 and 33. OK 44 makes you money and 33 loses you money, but why? How can that be? Are you way below where you should be flopping sets with 33/22? Or ...?

[gsdavid]

Its hard to say why these hands are performing worse than 44.Besides the fact that they are worth less EV than 44 in each position..obviously its expected that 22 and 33 gets overset once every 100k hands or so, while they pretty much cant overset the other PPs. I know set over set is rare but it does influence the winrate of individual hands. The problem is it doesn't matter how many times i hit set with 22 33, even if i had same number of sets as 44..Its too situational, long term variance dependent. For example..i can flop 10 sets with 22 and 44..22 could be mostly against steals while 44 against AA hands that stack off..that is why i need somoene with large database from a decent stakes since I'm not playing too much fish, so I don't expect to make a lot from 1 pair hands when i spike set.

[iceman5]

[Rhound50]

[Stoneburg]