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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:46 am

So the conclusion is:

1. Make bigger re-raises preflop (more than 3x obviously)
2. Always CB



Hand #1:

Opponent had JJ and flopped the top boat. I don't think I am getting away from it since JJ and 8x are the only hands that beat me and I think KK, QQ and AJ play it the same.

My equity when the money went in: 10%


Hand #2

Opponent had 66 and flopped a set. I think I can get away here, frankly I was considering folding to the flop raise just because I had a feeling he hit a monster. I think he played it really well though.June. I really cant wait.[/quote]

My equity when the money went in: 5%


Hand #3

Opponent had 99 and stacked off with a lower overpair, unfortunately he hit a 9 on the turn.

My equity when the money went in: 90%


Hand #4

Opponent had KJ for TP when he got it in, but hit trips on the river.

My equity when the money went in: 90%


Hand #5

Opponent had KJ for top pair and did not suck out.

My equity when the money went in: 90%


Hand #6

Opponent had 98s and hit a runner runner flush.

My flop equity 80%, turn equity 70%


Hand #7

Opponent had AT for TPTK and did not suck out.

My equity when the money went in: 90%



Frankly I think the feedback is kind of sucky. I got my money in as a big favorite 5 out of 7 times. Out of those 5, my opponent sucked out on me 3 times and that is why I lost money on it. My initial reason for posting was to see if it was common (or at least happened) for people to have 10k hand losing stretches with AA, not to get feedback on how I played them. I was (semi)open to the idea that I was playing them badly when presented with that, but when I have reviewed them I am playing them the same way I usually do and I am (usually) getting my money in as a big favorite. My Sklansky bucks for the above hands should be something like $200-300, but due to some variance I ended up in the red.

The suggestions of making bigger re-raises or CB-ing 100% would not have made the hands more +EV. I would probably have won one or two of them that I ended up losing now, due to folding out the opponent, but I would not have made more (Sklansky) money. So no, I don't think I lost money with AA over the last 10k hands because I played them badly (although I admit I should re-raise bigger when OOP, and usually do), in position I prefer a normal 3x raise.
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Postby NorthView » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:07 am

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:14 am

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Postby NorthView » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:32 am

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby black_knight6 » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:32 am

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Postby MBuckler » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:54 am

i think that has something to with it. did you get unlucky as well? yea.

it seems like you're trying to outplay people on the flop with AA...my thought is, why let them get to the flop? personally, i'm trying to get as much $ in PF with AA as i can. if someone wants to see a flop with me, its gonna cost 'em. if they outflop me, so be it.
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Postby black_knight6 » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:27 pm

Fine, but if those are the only ones where you got >30BB in, you're probably misplaying the ones where you're only winning a little...but, who am I to say...just trying to help.
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