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Postby iceman5 » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:57 am

So Im out of retirement for the 5th time (just like Muhammed Ali) :lol:

Im playing Bodog $100NL and beating it like a red headed step child. I dont use PT, but Im around 14 PTBBs after 10K or so hands 8-)

No reads. I was playing with T-Rod the other day and he tells me Im running around 24 / 18 or something like that...which is VERY LAGgy for this Bodog game.

No reads on villain. I raise to $5 with [Ac][9h] after UTG+1 limps.

BB and limper both call.
Pot $15. Flop [9s][5c][2d]. They check to me and I bet $9. Blind folds and the limper insta min check raises me. He has $56 more behind. Everyone who knows me knows I hate this spot but I call because I havent seen many people min check raising a set here like they do other places.

Pot $51. Turn [2h]. He thinks for about 2 seconds and shoves. Call or fold?
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Postby k3nt » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:07 am

Full ring or 6-max?

He's a semi-short stack which makes him a few percentage points more donkish than average.

He has 22 never of course. He has 55 or 99 pretty rarely because those two just caught their boats and shouldn't be worried about anything, so the slight overbet shove seems unlikely: I'd expect a smaller bet on turn and river to milk you.

At full ring games I have called here and gotten shown AA-QQ a whole lot, lower chance o JJ-TT. Those are really the most likely hands I think he has most of the time that beat you.

Problem is I can't see very many hands he can have that you're beating either. I suppose a dumbass could have 9x, plus he could be making a move on general principles.

Meh. Overall I think a call is pretty close to 0EV. Maybe a tiny bit +EV if it's 6-max and a tiny bit -EV if it's full ring.
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Postby iceman5 » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:10 am

6 max
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Postby NorthView » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:14 pm

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby Twelver » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:35 pm

Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
Mekos King (10:22:23 PM): unless your married and would lose like money inna divorce
Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

Heat517163 (5:05:37 PM): black people man
Heat517163 (5:05:40 PM): they travel in packs
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Postby Monkey » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:28 pm

Call.
The flop min-raise is nowhere near the sign of strength it used to be.
The donk who plays the turn like this with a strong hand is rare indeed.
Sometimes you lose to 2x or TT, most of the time you beat 9x, 5x, 66-88, 34/67/78.
He puts you on AK everytime.
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Postby TableTiger1 » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:17 pm

[21:24] Mbuckler: i think i need to go rape some bunnies

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Postby Spank_her_Pair » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:52 pm

[5c] [7c]
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Postby shobute » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:28 am

I call but kinda expect to only be good about half the time here.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:52 am

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Postby NorthView » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:44 am

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

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Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby T-Rod » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:02 pm

That open push is the old "Prima Push". It makes no sense with a real hand and usually isn't even TP but some missed draw.

I had a similiar hand vs a guy at Bodog the other day. Earlier he called a pfr with K5o and the flop came K52.

He now calls my pfr. I have AA.

Flop K56 and he ck/calls.

Turn is a T and he ck/calls

River is some brick and he open pushes. I call and he has TPNK and I win.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:05 pm

Wow, I was expecting his 2 pair to beat your AA. Cool story :lol:
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