[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4783: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3888)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4785: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3888)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4786: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3888)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4787: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3888)
NL50 - Horrible session yesterday - Live Poker Forums

Advanced search

NL50 - Horrible session yesterday

Hand analysis. Post your trouble hands here

Moderators: iceman5, LPF Police Department

NL50 - Horrible session yesterday

Postby MattSk » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:25 am

Yesterday this horrible session took place (simultaneously with the crash at the german stock market :?) where I lost 8 buy-ins over 1800 hands. Because I am just learning Hold'em I am not sure how much of the loss was attributed to bad play and how much was just bad luck. Though I will post the biggest losing hands which probably contain a lot of bad beats and hope you can help me to evaluate my play objectively.

Hand 1

Stacks:
UTG ($85.13)
UTG+1 ($39.12)
CO ($66.37)
BTN ($63.17)
Hero ($58.97)
BB ($50.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB [Js][Kd]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold

Flop: [Td][Kc][Jc] ($4.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero goes all-in $56.97, CO calls $53.97

Turn: [7h] ($118.44, 2 players)

River: [Qc] ($118.44, 2 players)

Final Pot: $118.44

CO shows: [Qs][Ah]

Hand 2

Stacks:
UTG ($49.49)
UTG 1 ($104.13)
CO ($10.69)
Hero ($53.38)
SB ($48.75)
BB ($29.30)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN [Ah][As]
1 fold, UTG 1 raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, UTG 1 raises to $15, Hero calls $9

Flop: [Jc][Tc][5c] ($30.75, 2 players)
UTG 1 bets $16, Hero goes all-in $38.38, UTG 1 calls $22.38

Turn: [9s] ($107.51, 2 players)

River: [Ks] ($107.51, 2 players)

Final Pot: $107.51
UTG 1 shows: [Kc][Kd]

Hand 3

Stacks:
UTG ($51.50)
UTG 1 ($88.57)
Hero ($49.25)
BTN ($59.28)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($34.19)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO [As][Kh]
1 fold, UTG 1 raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, UTG 1 calls $3.5

Flop: [9c][6c][Kc] ($10.75, 2 players)
UTG 1 checks, Hero bets $10, UTG 1 calls $10

Turn: [5s] ($30.75, 2 players)
UTG 1 checks, Hero goes all-in $34.25, UTG 1 calls $34.25

River: [Js] ($99.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $99.25
UTG 1 shows: [Qc][Ac]

Hand 4

Stacks:
UTG ($21.54)
UTG+1 ($48.66)
CO ($43.71)
BTN ($20.93)
SB ($25.15)
Hero ($50.57)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB [As][Kh]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.5

Flop: [3h][Ac][9h] ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $4, SB folds, Hero goes all-in $48.57, CO goes all-in $37.71

Turn: [8h] ($96.28, 2 players)

River: [8s] ($96.28, 2 players)

Final Pot: $96.28
CO shows: [Ah][Ad]

Hand 5

Stacks:
CO ($5.49)
BTN ($194.19)
SB ($53.30)
Hero ($42.78)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is BB [6d][5d]
1 fold, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.5

Flop: [7d][8d][Qc] ($4.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $9

Turn: [5h] ($28.25, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $28.78, BTN calls $28.78

River: [7s] ($85.81, 2 players)

Final Pot: $85.81
BTN shows: [8c][8s]

Hand 6

Stacks:
UTG ($42.64)
CO ($49.73)
BTN ($50.00)
SB ($49.50)
Hero ($51.46)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BB [As][Ah]
UTG calls $0.5, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, UTG calls $2.5, BTN calls $2.5

Flop: [Qc][4c][Ts] ($9.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $7, UTG raises to $14, 1 fold, Hero goes all-in $41.46, UTG goes all-in $25.64

Turn: [2s] ($97.35, 2 players)

River: [7s] ($97.35, 2 players)

Final Pot: $97.35
UTG shows: [4h][4s]

Hand 7

Stacks:
UTG ($30.38)
CO ($44.52)
Hero ($44.75)
SB ($83.75)
BB ($50.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BTN [Ah][Kc]
UTG calls $0.5, CO calls $0.5, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.5, CO folds

Flop: [3s][Ks][Qd] ($7.25, 2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $5

Turn: [4c] ($19.25, 2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $13, UTG goes all-in $18.38, Hero calls $8.38

River: [Ts] ($62.01, 2 players)

Final Pot: $62.01
UTG shows: [4d][Kd]

Hand 8

Stacks:
UTG ($44.85)
UTG+1 ($29.39)
CO ($50.00)
BTN ($49.25)
SB ($53.57)
Hero ($45.83)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB [Jh][Js]
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, UTG+1 calls $3.25

Flop: [2s][Ad][5h] ($10.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, UTG+1 goes all-in $24.39, Hero calls $17.39

Turn: [Ac] ($59.03, 2 players)

River: [6s] ($59.03, 2 players)

Final Pot: $59.03
UTG+1 shows: [As][Td]

Hand 9

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($91.25)
UTG 1 ($8.85)
Hero ($47.61)
BTN ($46.19)
SB ($14.84)
BB ($51.78)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO [Ad][Qd]
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $2, 1 fold, BB raises to $6.5, Hero calls $4.5, BTN folds

Flop: [Jd][Ks][9c] ($15.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: [4d] ($15.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $10

River: [8c] ($55.25, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $25.28, Hero folds

Hand 10

Stacks:
UTG ($39.61)
UTG+1 ($25.34)
CO ($116.35)
BTN ($48.75)
SB ($11.98)
Hero ($58.43)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB [Qs][Ks]
UTG calls $0.5, 1 fold, CO calls $0.5, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2.5, UTG folds, CO calls $2, SB folds

Flop: [4h][5h][4s] ($6, 2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, CO calls $4.5

Turn: [8d] ($15, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO calls $10

River: [3c] ($35, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $35
CO shows: [Td][Th]
User avatar
MattSk
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:15 am

Postby MattSk » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:31 am

By the way here are the Poker Tracker stats of the session:

Image

and the pokerev graph:

Image.
User avatar
MattSk
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:15 am

Postby epidemic » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:54 am

Several of the hands are obviously bad beats and just chalk upto experience

The most obvious thing i see is hand 1 why are you pushing $56 into a pot of $7 you are only going to be called by the better hand. a standard raise to would have been better. he would have probably pushed making your decision easier

Hand 9 always be very cautious of a 3 bet prefolp when they check the flop signifies a monster most of the time and they want you to catch up. the min raise ion the turn just reinforces this wouldnt be supprised if he didnt have KK here, or a min of JJ
User avatar
epidemic
 
Posts: 133
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:10 am

Postby JimmyJet » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:55 am

Right, just made some quick notes as there's alot of hands there dude..

1) Fold preflop
2) Bad beat
3) Check behind on the turn for pot control, you only have a pair.
4) 3 bet preflop for the love of god, however you was prolly destined to go broke.
5) Played fine, cooler.
6) Cooler
7) Make that flop bet more.
8) Just call here, he has just over a 50BB stack, you are closing the action, just call preflop.
9) Check behind on the turn maybe? Def fold to the min raise, putting in half a stack and folding is retarded.
10) Check preflop or raise more here, $2.50 just ain't gonna push people off hands and you're OOP for the rest of the hand. Cbet is fine, why bet the turn? He's clearly not going anywhere, stop trying to push people off hands when they are most prolly retards.


Tough session though, most of them are coolers but there are spots you misplayed them slightly IMO.
User avatar
JimmyJet
 
Posts: 1400
Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:43 am
Location: Looking for a luckbox

Postby Jossnaz » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:12 am

Always bet on duke
User avatar
Jossnaz
 
Posts: 706
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:05 pm
Location: Basel dr Stadt am Rhy

Postby JimmyJet » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:22 am

User avatar
JimmyJet
 
Posts: 1400
Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:43 am
Location: Looking for a luckbox

Postby Monkey » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:35 am

I've done the same - let's see.

1. Fold pre-flop as standard. You could re-raise, but I'd rather do that with 87s. KJo is awkward OOP in raised pots. Your flop shove is nasty, just raise a normal amount or call and lead or check-raise the turn. The result of this hand is a cooler though.

2. Shove pre-flop. He raised and re-re-raised from UTG. He likes his hand. If he'll put 30BB in and fold to you, start shoving more.

3. Check behind on the turn. Very few hands you're ahead of are going to call - A [Qc], A [Jc]. Everything else crushes you.

4. Re-raise pre-flop. Once the A comes, your going to lose a decent amount no matter what. Your flop shove is bad - what worse hands do you expect to call? What better hands fold?

5. I'd re-raise or fold this pre-flop. This is a flop to get it in on though. You have 42% equity against sets. Add other hands to his range and it's quickly over 50%. My preference is bet-3bet all-in. You've over-bet shoved other flops, why not this one?

6. His limp-call pre-flop and then min-raise is suspicious. I'd probably call and get it in on a blank turn. With no read, I can't really see folding though.

7. Cooler. Raise more on the flop ($9-$12 or so). Note that villain is bad.

8. Bet-fold flop! Half stack villains are usually bad and bad players love Ace-anything. Pre-flop re-raise is fine, especially now we know he'll play ATo like that.

9. I don't mind folding pre-flop unless he's been 3-betting a lot. Re-raise then check is a suspicious line, particularly on a high-card rainbow flop. Take the free card on the turn. Once he min-raises, you've got upto 13 outs getting 4.5-1, so call.

10. Good flop to check. Any pp will likely call. The turn is a bad double-barrel card as it is unlikely to improve your hand. Some flush draws will give up, but not all. Not much else that called the flop will fold here.

The pokerev graph shows you're obviously running cold as well. First adjustment when running cold is tighten up. This means post-flop as well. Don't be so eager to get your stack in with 1pr hands and don't try to force people off their hand.
User avatar
Monkey
 
Posts: 143
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:20 pm

Postby Stoneburg » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:48 pm

Image
User avatar
Stoneburg
 
Posts: 5931
Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 9:03 pm
Location: Sweden

Postby Semillon » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:17 pm

User avatar
Semillon
 
Posts: 1547
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:13 pm


Return to No Limit Hold'em Cash Games

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests

cron