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Postby iceman5 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:47 pm

$1/$2 NL 6 max.

Im running over the table with raises and Ive hit some hands. Ive shown down 65s after raising when I flopped 965 and got all in with a guy who had 88. I have $650 and the guy to my left has $440. Im raising his blinds with reckless abandon and he has done nothing but fold for 5 rounds.

I raise to $7 with [8c][7c]. He reraises to $22. As I said, he is laying down to me but this time reraises. I think we are deep enough for me to call even OOP right?

So I call.

Pot $47. Flop [Ah][Kh][8h]. Meh, Im ready to give up. I check...he checks behind
Pot $47. Turn [8s]. Hmm...Would he really check with AA / KK on this flop? What do you do here?
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Postby black_knight6 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:11 pm

It really depends - given that you're OOP, deep, and he's frustrated. However, you can probably put him on a fairly tight range.

This is really really gross...his range is mostly AA-QQ and AK. AK/AA-KK aren't going anywhere, but QQ is...you could bet/fold here. You could check again...I just wouldn't feel too happy about getting it in on the turn, or even by the river.
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:23 pm

I have no plans whatsoever of getting all in for 220 BB vs this guy unless I river another 8 of course.
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Postby Aisthesis » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:06 pm

Easy call PF.

On the turn, I think I'd bet maybe 25-ish. If he's been folding a lot and now re-raises, I'd say his range is moderately large--certainly including AK, AQ with Qh. QQ and JJ with a heart as well as sets.

I do think he's capable of having AA or KK even after checking the flop (although I hate his play with those hands). You're probably just going to have to sniff those out, which shouldn't be terribly difficult, although it should cost you something.

Anyhow, if he folds, fine. He'll usually call, I think. And if he does, I think I'd check-call most non-heart rivers that don't fill you up. Another heart, and if he bets anything substantial, I think you have to fold.
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Postby Aisthesis » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:10 pm

Looking at bk's post, I don't think his range is quite THAT tight.

Let's say ice has raised from CO and button every single time and he's folded for 5 orbits. That's just 10 times. That means that our best guess of his re-raising frequency is about 10%. That's a LOT more than QQ-AA and AK.

Until proven otherwise, I'm assuming he'd re-raise TT+ and AQ+ here at least. Given ice's maniac image, I do think he's laying down TT-QQ unless he has a heart, but I doubt he's laying down AQ even without Qh.

Also, getting it in with that pot-size and these stacks isn't really an issue. I think you're looking for a healthy $100 pot or somewhere around in there. He's probably also just calling the turn with AA/KK (at least most of the players in my live games would) in the hope you might bluff again.

And, as ice pointed out, you could get super lucky and have him with AA/KK when another 8 hits. Hence, that one I'd definitely bet out, hope for some kind of raise, then RN.
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:08 am

If a guy has folded 5 straight orbits, just because it's 1 hand in 11 which is 9%, his range is NOT 9%!!!

I've never seen a regular with a 3b range of 9%!!! Mine is maybe 5% and that's pretty high...so this guy's is more likely going to be <1%, and that's AA/KK/AK.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:18 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby NorthView » Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:05 am

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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Postby iceman5 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:29 am

It looked to me like he had some kind of draw possibly a super draw so I shoved.

He called with [Ad][6d] and missed.

Edit: Disregard. This is results on a different hand.
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Postby iceman5 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:04 pm

Oops, that was a different hand.

I bet $30 on the turn and he called.
River was some non heart blank. I bet $30 again and he called with AQ.
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Postby iceman5 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:27 pm

I figured if he reraised but didnt bet that flop, he didnt have an ace. He called the turn so I put him on QQ probably with the [Qh]. I really didnt think he would bet the river if I checked it.
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