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[Ad]. BB donk cold calls and the TAG calls also
TAG ($350)
Me ($265)
Donk ($175)
Pot $68. Flop
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[Js][3s]. They check to me. I bet $55. Donk folds and then TAG check raises all in. Its $$190 to me.Fold AA here?
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Fold AA here?
by iceman5 » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:10 pm
A 17 / 7 TAG raises $7 in the cutoff. I make it $22 in OTB with [Ad]. BB donk cold calls and the TAG calls also
TAG ($350)
Me ($265)
Donk ($175)
Pot $68. Flop[Js][3s]. They check to me. I bet $55. Donk folds and then TAG check raises all in. Its $$190 to me.
[Ad]. BB donk cold calls and the TAG calls also
TAG ($350)
Me ($265)
Donk ($175)
Pot $68. Flop
[Js][3s]. They check to me. I bet $55. Donk folds and then TAG check raises all in. Its $$190 to me.iceman5 ![[As]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
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by Zuccala » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:18 pm
Maybe KK,JJ,AK or AKs. Since he is a TAG I am inclined to fold. If the donk its a snap call. I probably call and hate myself.
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by Stoneburg » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:03 pm
Must be AK or JJ. Maybe [Qs]. Against that range you're 58%. I almost never fold AA in a reraised pot but...
1. I fucking hate getting stacked by someone playing 17/7 because it's so unlikely I will get my money back.
2. That preflop re-raise really priced him in good. If you call and he has a set, he only had to pay $15 to win your stack, that sucks.
So re-raise more preflop obviously, and not just because he is deep, but he only raises 7% preflop so there's a good chance he has exactly the sort of hand to give you action with (JJ-KK and AK). I would suggest making it at least $35 preflop.
[Qs]. Against that range you're 58%. I almost never fold AA in a reraised pot but...
1. I fucking hate getting stacked by someone playing 17/7 because it's so unlikely I will get my money back.
2. That preflop re-raise really priced him in good. If you call and he has a set, he only had to pay $15 to win your stack, that sucks.
So re-raise more preflop obviously, and not just because he is deep, but he only raises 7% preflop so there's a good chance he has exactly the sort of hand to give you action with (JJ-KK and AK). I would suggest making it at least $35 preflop.
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by black_knight6 » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:30 pm
I make the 3b at least 24, but not much more than 26-28.
As played, there are more combos of draws and AK than KK/JJ, so all in.
As played, there are more combos of draws and AK than KK/JJ, so all in.
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by hard2tel » Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:57 pm
u think a 17/11 tag is gonna have many combo draws here?
i think this is pretty close tbh but theres no way i could fold.
i think this is pretty close tbh but theres no way i could fold.
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by black_knight6 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:37 am
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by iceman5 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:37 am
To be honest, I didnt even lok at stack sizes during the hand. Preflop I just hit the raise pot button. On the flop when he check raised all in, I didnt notice it was THAT much more to me. I was kind of in "robot" mode where I never fold AA in a reraised pot.
I did think "oh shit, this guy has to have KK , JJ or AK and I have 2 As so AK isnt likely"...but I called anyway of course. He actually had KJ but I rivered an ace and actually outdrew someone for once in my life.
A bigger preflop reraise is a very good idea.
I did think "oh shit, this guy has to have KK , JJ or AK and I have 2 As so AK isnt likely"...but I called anyway of course. He actually had KJ but I rivered an ace and actually outdrew someone for once in my life.
A bigger preflop reraise is a very good idea.
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by GodlikeRoy » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:47 am
If his range is KK, JJ and AK, you have 46.5% equity. If you add KQ, KJ, and maybe some draws, it's a mistake to fold this, even facing a pot sized raise.
Though I think KK and AK are less likely to be in his range given he overcalled your 3bet pf.
Though I think KK and AK are less likely to be in his range given he overcalled your 3bet pf.
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