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. $100 effective stacks. What line do we take?Flopped OESD against good TAG FR $100's
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Flopped OESD against good TAG FR $100's
by Trump34 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:33 pm
I'm 8 tabling on Cake and the villain is on all my tables. I have seen him fold to aggression and also make some good calls/bets that makes me think he is making these plays with good reads. I don't have a HUD on Cake but he is a solid TAG. I haven't been out of line, at least not while OOP.
CO limps(no reads) Villain on the button makes it $5...SB folds...I call from the BB with ...CO folds...flop is . $100 effective stacks. What line do we take?
CO limps(no reads) Villain on the button makes it $5...SB folds...I call from the BB with
...CO folds...flop is . $100 effective stacks. What line do we take?I refuse to go to treatment, because they don't serve Scotch there.
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by NorthView » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:08 am
Are we often CRing a set on a flop like this that he's less likely to CB?
Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.
Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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by Danhdan » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:18 pm
I think this particular flop(small PP that flops an OESD, raise called by Hero preflop) appears in the forum every month or so and I still have not seen anything remotely close to agreement on it.
I think the solution might be more where you want your variance level at. If you don't mind the higher variance I would recommend 3-bet or CR and getting your stack in. If you are not inclined to lose your monies in this particular spot, I think a passive, call one street approach might be needed or maybe even a check/fold???
I think Doc is right about your hand being very readable if you call this flop, although against a CS player, the c/c might be the best approach if you think villain will pay you off if you hit.
Against a solid TAG, I imagine you getting your money in slightly -EV a decent amount of the time here, but maybe balancing it out with the times you make villain fold.
I guess another question we could ask is this: If button is a solid TAG(and getting reads on the table), and the CO limps and he raises, what range could he be raising with?
I'm thinking button's range here is pretty huge if he's trying to isolate a weak player in the CO(or just steal a limped blind). This is the best reason I could think of for playing this hand aggressive.
I think the solution might be more where you want your variance level at. If you don't mind the higher variance I would recommend 3-bet or CR and getting your stack in. If you are not inclined to lose your monies in this particular spot, I think a passive, call one street approach might be needed or maybe even a check/fold???
I think Doc is right about your hand being very readable if you call this flop, although against a CS player, the c/c might be the best approach if you think villain will pay you off if you hit.
Against a solid TAG, I imagine you getting your money in slightly -EV a decent amount of the time here, but maybe balancing it out with the times you make villain fold.
I guess another question we could ask is this: If button is a solid TAG(and getting reads on the table), and the CO limps and he raises, what range could he be raising with?
I'm thinking button's range here is pretty huge if he's trying to isolate a weak player in the CO(or just steal a limped blind). This is the best reason I could think of for playing this hand aggressive.
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by shamdonk » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:42 pm
Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.
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by NorthView » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:51 pm
Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.
Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
==================================================================
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.
Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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by shamdonk » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:11 pm
Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.
(9:00:09 PM) GodlikeRoy: i think you could prolly post total shit for the next 2 years aaaaand like 192 days and you'll still be considered 'posting good' cause of your threads that'll never be seen thread
(9:00:09 PM) GodlikeRoy: i think you could prolly post total shit for the next 2 years aaaaand like 192 days and you'll still be considered 'posting good' cause of your threads that'll never be seen thread
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