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Do I raise the turn with my set when 3rd spade falls?(200NL)

Postby LuparFiend » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:35 pm

This guy was an agro donk. I don't have stats right now, but he was min-raising a lot. He got most of his stack from really bad suckouts against some other people.

So he leads out under half pot when the 3rd spade falls. Notice that we are 270 BB deep. Do I want to raise this donk lead? Am I happy getting it in here (And I think he could definitely re-raise a wide range here like a made flush, flush draw, air, etc..), since if I am behind, I still have 10 outs?

It's not very often you flop top set in a deep hand like this. I want to take advantage of that, right?


$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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Converted at

Stacks:
Hero ($538.15)
SB ($595.95)
BB ($928.45)

Pre-flop: ($3, 3 players) Hero is BTN [Jc][Jh]
SB says "ribbit", Hero raises to $7, SB calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: [4d][Js][3s] ($16, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12

Turn: [Qs] ($40, 2 players)
SB bets $16, Hero?????

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Postby Xaston » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:09 pm

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Postby equus » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:43 pm

Is it reasonable to assume that since he's the SB, if he does have a flush quite often it won't be very big? And you're representing big cards of some sort so he might fear the 4th spade as well. You said he's aggro and sucked out on someone so if he has a flush, wouldn't he usually reraise? I agree with hating getting 3-bet so deep. It also seems that if he doesn't have a flush that he'll bluff the river a lot.
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Postby LuparFiend » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:25 am

Turn Results:

I decided to just call. River was a beautiful [3c]

Pot had $72 in it and he led out on the river for $56. I popped that up to $225. Good amount there? Maybe a little bit less? More?
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Postby The Golden 1 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:01 pm

225 is meh compared to the other two because its an amount he may fold to too often.

The smaller raise he will rarely fold to, and the push he may fold to a lot but you make up for it with the times he does call since its a much bigger raise. Those two plays will probably make you more money than the $225 raise (I don't feel like doing maths right now).
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