AA on paired flop

[iceman5]

$1/$2 NL 6 max...this is at Full Tilt if it makes a difference to you. Ive been at the table just a few mins and have $210. SB has over $400.

I raise to $7 from the cutoff with [Ac]. The SB calls.

Pot $16. Flop [Qd][Qs]. SB leads $11. I raise to $31. He reraises to $77.

Whats my play?

[DoctorHandles]

Raising the flop is pretty bad here, and it's really bad if you don't know how to handle a 3-bet. I have no idea how to handle a 3-bet here either so I would have called the flop without much thought.

As played I would flat and call a shove on any non-diamond turn, and shove myself if checked to though I've never really been in this spot before.

[hard2tel]

There's no way i fold this against an unknown. Even if you do have the Ad.

[WayToGo]

Oh i hate this spot so much.

I wonder what Brian Boytano would do???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdePNjcqNjc

I think calling the flop is criminal, since we will be faced with a shove on the turn very very often.

[iceman5]

[Xaston]

[iceman5]

[charlie sheepskins]

[T-Rod]

Please push now and give him the hard decision.

[The Golden 1]

[johnnie_naked]

[iceman5]

Good players bet / 3 bet draws all the time. They also bet / 3 bet paired flops as bluffs all the time. Isnt that some zeebo theorum or something?

Isnt this the perfect flop to do this with a draw since I have to fold alot of my range in fear of him having a Q?

He could have [9d] or any other combo type draw of which there are a number of.

[hard2tel]

[ua1176]

[Triple B]

There's a difference between not intending to fold and trying to get your stack in. I have no problems with not wanting to fold but I don't see why we have try to get our stack in. If we get our stack in on this board we are very likely to be behind or against [Td] or something.

Therefore, I call flop and don't raise.

As played I just call and get it in on any turn. You have redraws even if he hits a turn flush or straight and waiting for the turn may give him the impression he can still bluff.