ATTN: intl traveling porn smugglers, errrr, I mean Roy
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ATTN: intl traveling porn smugglers, errrr, I mean Roy
by SebQtaneus » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:46 pm
EDIT: Suggestion,
EDIT part 2: I believe they can also look in pink luggage.
Mekos King: Seb is now the way the truth and the light
Mekos King: as if we didnt know that already
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by MecosKing » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:23 pm
NorthViewBTP: poor old ED
NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
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Mekos King: NV ignoring
Jimmy BTP: he's ignoring me too
Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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neelguru: I gave up politics when I was 6
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NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
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Mekos King: NV ignoring
Jimmy BTP: he's ignoring me too
Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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neelguru: I gave up politics when I was 6
neelguru: Im dedicating the rest of my life to getting unstuck
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by SebQtaneus » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:26 pm
Mekos King: Seb is now the way the truth and the light
Mekos King: as if we didnt know that already
Mekos King: as if we didnt know that already
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by bigwheell » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:51 pm
Are you guys just looking for kiddie porn/terrorism related stuff, or are you also looking for other financial crimes? What about an attorney's files where there is an obvious claim of privilege?
We basically need no level of suspision to look at a laptop. You are at the border, or the functional equivilant of the border and that is all we need.
We generally look for Kiddie Porn, but also look for terrorism/national security related information as well, if we believe there is a need. If we find evidence that would lead us to think there may be fraud, financial crimes, OFAC issues. We generally detain the computer and have our ICE Special Agents take possession of it and they take the case from that point.
Do you deny entry to people who do not offer passwords or otherwise allow access to files? Does it matter if they are citizens or non-citizens? Will you detain non-citizens that refuse to comply with a request for access?
We will not deny them entry if they are USC's or if they can legally enter the country. We can and will detain the laptop or harddrive if they will not provide us the passwords. We would then send the HD to our cyper crimes unit in DC that would look through the computer
We can and do let Non-citizens withdraw their application for entry, but we always give the Canadians a courtesy call so that they may deal with their own citizen.
I have always understood that the 4th Amendment stops at the border, so this ruling seems correct to me. Its all the other stuff that goes along with it that is concerning.
As far as claims to priveledge, I have never dealt with it. I imagine that we would detain the computer without looking at it until we get a ruling from out chief counsil
What other stuff???
We basically need no level of suspision to look at a laptop. You are at the border, or the functional equivilant of the border and that is all we need.
We generally look for Kiddie Porn, but also look for terrorism/national security related information as well, if we believe there is a need. If we find evidence that would lead us to think there may be fraud, financial crimes, OFAC issues. We generally detain the computer and have our ICE Special Agents take possession of it and they take the case from that point.
Do you deny entry to people who do not offer passwords or otherwise allow access to files? Does it matter if they are citizens or non-citizens? Will you detain non-citizens that refuse to comply with a request for access?
We will not deny them entry if they are USC's or if they can legally enter the country. We can and will detain the laptop or harddrive if they will not provide us the passwords. We would then send the HD to our cyper crimes unit in DC that would look through the computer
We can and do let Non-citizens withdraw their application for entry, but we always give the Canadians a courtesy call so that they may deal with their own citizen.
I have always understood that the 4th Amendment stops at the border, so this ruling seems correct to me. Its all the other stuff that goes along with it that is concerning.
As far as claims to priveledge, I have never dealt with it. I imagine that we would detain the computer without looking at it until we get a ruling from out chief counsil
What other stuff???
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by GodlikeRoy » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:09 pm
Poker is silly.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
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by SebQtaneus » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:51 pm
Mekos King: Seb is now the way the truth and the light
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by MacAnthony » Thu May 01, 2008 8:04 am
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<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
<Trump34> yep
<emmasdad> i have only done that 3 times in a year and a half. . .
<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
<Trump34> yep
<emmasdad> i have only done that 3 times in a year and a half. . .
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