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Postby iceman5 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:56 am

#1) ABC player raises $7 in MP. I call in the BB with [Jh][Jd].

Pot $15. Flop [Th][9s][3c]. I check / call his $12 bet.
Pot $39. Turn [5s]. I lead $20. He calls.
Pot $79. River [8d. I check.....Thoughts overall? How much would you call here?

#2) I raise to $7 with [As][Qs] UTG+1. A guy Ive never seen before but has a full stack repops to $22 in the cutoff. I call.

Pot $47. Flop [Ah][9s][3s]. I check / call his $31 bet. If I had called a raise OOP, I would bet / 3 bet here but I dont really see the point in this case. All that does is posibly make AK fold which is good, but any hand Im beating will fold for sure.

Pot $109. Turn [6c]. I check...he checks behind.
Pot $109. River [2d]. I think most people would bet now. At Cake rarely do people reraise preflop with less than JJ or AK. I seriously doubt he has AK and I doubt hes going to call if I bet since he has to put me on a ace. I check hoping he will bet something like JJ / TT since he might put me on KK / QQ and think I will fold. Thoughts?

#3) I raise [Kh][Qh] UTG. Button and SB call me.
Pot $23. Flop [9c][7h][2h]. SB checks, I bet $15. Button calls.
Pot $53. Turn [Ah]. I bet $33. He calls.
Pot $119. River [3h]. I check. I cant really see him having a heart very often here. The ace, king and queeen are accounted for. He might have [Jh][Jc] I guess? Im hpoing he will be since it looks like I dont have a heart or at least not a high one.

#4) UTG (Sharkman79 for those of you who know him) raises $7. This guy has his own website and records sessions for teaching purposes. I think he used to play higher but moved down to work out some kinks. At least thats what he said on one video I watched. From watching that video , IMO, he knows what hes doing but has some obvious leaks.

So I call with [9d][9c].

Pot $17. Flop [Qh][9h][4c]. He bets $13. I find that good players will 2 barrell much more often when theres a flush draw on the flop thinking Im drawing so i like to just call in this spot. Every thread I read on 2+2 says "villain cant have a set here..he has to raise that drawy flop with a set"...which is why I dont raise.

Pot $43. Turn [7s]. He bets $30. I call again.
Pot $103. River [5d]. He checks....I bet $81 pretty quickly...thoughts?
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Postby Zuccala » Sat May 17, 2008 8:02 am

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1. Make $40K by year end.
2. Play at least 100hrs a month.
3. Read 5-10 new Poker Books w/ notes.
4. Become regular at $2/$4 FR
5. Try some $5/$10 FR
6. Work on Game non-stop.
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Postby Zuccala » Sat May 17, 2008 8:18 am

Hand #3

I would have bet bigger on the flop ($20). Thats a great flop for you so lets get some money in the pot. Again, on the turn maybe something like $40 ro so. I like the river.

Hand #4

Deffinatley a non-standard line. I am curous why you did not raise turn?? As you said " Any decent player would (He must have notes on you and realize you are a very strong player) would have raised the flop because of all the draws. So he can't really put you on anything super strong, Lets take advantage of the deception you used on flop and get some money in on turn. Your hand is too strong to call down. Plus, any [h], K,Q,J,T,8 could kill ur action or maybe even hand. Thats like almost half the deck. Besides anything he will bet/call the river with will prolly call ur raise (unless he 3-Barrels) because of the non-standard line.
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Postby spacemonkey » Sun May 18, 2008 1:46 am

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Postby ua1176 » Sun May 18, 2008 5:47 pm

hand 1 i bet/fold for like $48.

hand 2 with no reads i would muck PF a lot. but if you call, then flop play is fine and i'm assuming you're check/calling turn and river for any amount he bets.

3. yesterday i overbet shoved the river after betting flop + turn with the [Kh] on a 4-[h] board, and got called by 2 pair. with no reads on Cake i would bet and hope to get called by something stupid. with reads that your villain is bluffy then a check would be fine.

4. this is fine unless you feel like actually having a chance at getting your whole stack in. board = very drawy. sets + draws + some bluffs = raise + get all in. woo balance.

edit: if you HAVE to play hand 4 like this, insta-pot the river.
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Postby ua1176 » Sun May 18, 2008 5:48 pm

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