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PLO8 Broadway + flush redraw on a paired board.

Postby GooperMC » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:46 pm

$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo (5 handed)

Hero ($48.45)
BB ($20.11)
UTG+1 ($25)
LP2 ($25)
OTB ($24.15)

Hero posts small blind [$0.10].
BB posts big blind [$0.25].
UTG+1 posts big blind [$0.25].

Preflop: Hero is in BB with [Qd] [3d] [8s] [Ks]
(1 check), (1 folds), OTB calls [$0.25], Hero calls [$0.15], (1 check)

Mediocre hand but worth a complete? 5 way both of my flush draws are probibly live.

Flop: ($1) [Js] [Jd] [As] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, OTB checks

I checked because a naked J has got to bet there. No bet probibly == no J

Turn: ($1) [Th] (6 players)
I bet pot, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, OTB re-pots.

Now I am a little suspicious. Why would a made boat re-pot there? He has position why not call and see if I will bet into him again on the river. Yet again this is the party $25 tables (which short handed are worse then normal) so my opponent may not be think much beyond "grunt I made a boat grunt".

This really feels like a naked J to me but am I willing to put my stack forward to find out? The problem is that if I am right I fairly large favorite but if I am wrong I am drawing dead.


This is the 3rd hand that this player has played so I have no read on him.

I don't play much short handed although I think I am going to start playing more so criticism on all streets are welcome and thoughts on what to do on the turn will be appreciated.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:02 pm

First, let me make it very clear that I have no clue about shorthanded PLO8, so this is certainly nothing more than conjecture.

First, I wouldn't even complete the SB here. Change the Q or K into an A, then I love this hand.

Flop... sure, tread lightly.

Turn... I fold to this reraise without a solid read that this guy is a donk. If this guy is jamming a pot-sized raise with only trips on this board, you'll probably end up with all of his money sooner or later anyway.
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Postby Hofstra » Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:51 am

On the flop you rule out a J because you "know" that anyone with a J must bet. Then on the turn you change this into "feels like a naked J". This is not consistent.

As for playing trips, I set myself the rule (for PLO, but it applies to this hand as well since there is no low) that I wouldn't play them for a large amount unless I have very strong evidence that my opponent would play weaker hands on such a board for a large amount. You don't have that evidence here.

I'd rather fold the best hand here than lose a bundle to a flopped full house.

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:47 pm

The Monkman J[c]

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A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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