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Some more PLO25 on party - Part 1

Postby briachek » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:01 pm

I'm gonna be lazy this time and just give you the hand histories.

Hand 1

***** Hand History for Game 2507758647 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Tue Aug 09 21:34:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 37900 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: blackjackz ( $9.75)
Seat 2: luciacortez3 ( $28)
Seat 3: briachek ( $29.98)
Seat 4: bslager ( $40.45)
Seat 5: derickmen ( $27.60)
Seat 6: stndaman ( $39.80)
Seat 7: mrc547 ( $23.55)
Seat 8: hottrick ( $35.22)
Seat 9: DCP48 ( $17.15)
Seat 10: kukla ( $45.45)
derickmen posts small blind (0.10)
stndaman posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ Ah, Qd, 3h, Ad ]
mrc547 calls (0.25)
hottrick calls (0.25)
DCP48 calls (0.25)
kukla calls (0.25)
blackjackz folds.
luciacortez3 calls (0.25)
briachek calls (0.25)
bslager calls (0.25)
derickmen calls (0.15)
stndaman checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 3d, 2s ]
derickmen checks.
stndaman checks.
mrc547 checks.
hottrick bets (0.50)
DCP48 folds.
kukla calls (0.50)
luciacortez3 folds.
briachek calls (0.50)
bslager folds.
derickmen calls (0.50)
stndaman folds.
mrc547 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8d ]
derickmen bets (4.05)
hottrick folds.
kukla folds.
briachek calls (4.05)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6h ]
derickmen checks.
briachek checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $11.75 | Rake: $0.60
Board: [ Qc 3d 2s 8d 6h ]
briachek balance $36.93, bet $4.80, collected $11.75, net +$6.95 [ Ah Qd 3h Ad ] [ two pairs, queens and threes -- Qd,Qc,8d,3h,3d ]
derickmen balance $22.80, lost $4.80 [ 7h Td Jd Js ] [ a pair of jacks -- Qc,Jd,Js,8d,6h ]


on the turn, i felt i was ahead plus I had a draw if I wasn't, comments?

Hand 2

***** Hand History for Game 2507209097 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Tue Aug 09 20:07:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 37900 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: sangrefrio ( $24.65)
Seat 2: clane1212 ( $26.55)
Seat 3: briachek ( $25)
Seat 4: ScabbyBear ( $23.05)
Seat 5: dwcbroker ( $87.35)
Seat 6: stndaman ( $20.85)
Seat 7: ilovedeath ( $25)
Seat 8: hottrick ( $35.05)
Seat 9: monsodm ( $126.20)
Seat 10: PokerSushi ( $25)
monsodm posts small blind (0.10)
PokerSushi posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ 2h, Qs, Jh, Qd ]
sangrefrio folds.
clane1212 calls (0.25)
briachek calls (0.25)
ScabbyBear folds.
dwcbroker folds.
stndaman calls (0.25)
monsodm calls (0.15)
PokerSushi checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 5d, Kd ]
monsodm checks.
PokerSushi checks.
clane1212 checks.
briachek bets (1.25)
stndaman folds.
monsodm raises (2.50) to 2.50
PokerSushi folds.
clane1212 folds.
briachek calls (1.25)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
monsodm checks.
briachek bets (5.95)
monsodm calls (5.95)
** Dealing River ** : [ 4d ]
monsodm checks.
briachek bets (16.30)
briachek is all-In.
monsodm folds.
Creating Main Pot with $33.55 with briachek
** Summary **
Main Pot: $33.55 | Rake: $0.90
Board: [ Qc 5d Kd 5c 4d ]

Main question is the flop. Do you just call or reraise? On the turn, he could be trapping, but if he isn't, i wanted to charge him full. He just called and checked the river, not many people would do that with KK or 55 so I pushed.

Hand 3a (whoops mislabled them the first time)

***** Hand History for Game 2507167027 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Tue Aug 09 19:59:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 36722 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: frkideaky ( $43.85)
Seat 2: PokerSushi ( $25)
Seat 3: AztecPlayer ( $143.70)
Seat 4: Kameel ( $26.75)
Seat 5: brian1964 ( $65.30)
Seat 6: briachek ( $33.50)
Seat 7: hottrick ( $21.30)
Seat 8: sangrefrio ( $23.95)
Seat 9: ilovedeath ( $25)
Seat 10: rainman_mon ( $22.35)
brian1964 posts small blind (0.10)
briachek posts big blind (0.25)
PokerSushi posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ 8s, 6c, 8h, Jc ]
sangrefrio folds.
ilovedeath folds.
rainman_mon calls (0.25)
frkideaky folds.
PokerSushi checks.
AztecPlayer calls (0.25)
Kameel calls (0.25)
brian1964 calls (0.15)
briachek checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 3d, 2c ]
brian1964 checks.
briachek checks.
rainman_mon checks.
PokerSushi checks.
AztecPlayer bets (1.50)
Kameel folds.
brian1964 folds.
briachek raises (6) to 6
rainman_mon folds.
PokerSushi folds.
AztecPlayer calls (4.50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ]
briachek bets (12.85)
AztecPlayer calls (12.85)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qc ]
briachek bets (14.40)
briachek is all-In.
AztecPlayer folds.
Creating Main Pot with $51.65 with briachek
** Summary **
Main Pot: $51.65 | Rake: $1.95
Board: [ 8d 3d 2c Jh Qc ]

I should have checked the river right?

Hand 3b

***** Hand History for Game 2507010867 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Tue Aug 09 19:32:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 36677 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: JollyBob85 ( $26.83)
Seat 3: LFIABP ( $26.10)
Seat 5: mrblack448 ( $26.50)
Seat 6: Whiteymcgee ( $76.03)
Seat 8: jukeNpuke ( $26.20)
Seat 9: Kringle66 ( $34.25)
Seat 10: briachek ( $24.40)
jukeNpuke posts small blind (0.10)
Kringle66 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ Qs, 6d, 4d, Qd ]
briachek calls (0.25)
JollyBob85 folds.
LFIABP calls (0.25)
mrblack448 folds.
jukeNpuke folds.
Kringle66 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, 3c, Qh ]
Kringle66 checks.
briachek bets (0.85)
LFIABP calls (0.85)
Kringle66 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
briachek bets (2.45)
LFIABP calls (2.45)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ks ]
briachek checks.
LFIABP bets (7.10)
briachek calls (7.10)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $20.60 | Rake: $1.05
Board: [ 7d 3c Qh Td Ks ]
JollyBob85 balance $26.83, didn't bet (folded)
LFIABP balance $36.05, bet $10.65, collected $20.60, net +$9.95 [ 2s Jd Ad 7s ] [ a straight, ten to ace -- Ad,Ks,Qh,Jd,Td ]
mrblack448 balance $26.50, didn't bet (folded)
jukeNpuke balance $26.10, lost $0.10 (folded)
Kringle66 balance $34, lost $0.25 (folded)
briachek balance $13.75, lost $10.65 [ Qs 6d 4d Qd ] [ three of a kind, queens -- Ks,Qs,Qd,Qh,Td ]

Anything that I could really do here?

hand 4

***** Hand History for Game 2506963422 *****
bevrlee51 has left the table.
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Tue Aug 09 19:23:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 36677 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: JollyBob85 ( $29.53)
Seat 3: LFIABP ( $24.75)
Seat 5: mrblack448 ( $24.75)
Seat 6: Whiteymcgee ( $76.53)
Seat 7: farnhamlll ( $9.60)
Seat 8: jukeNpuke ( $24.30)
Seat 9: Kringle66 ( $28.05)
Seat 10: briachek ( $24.40)
JollyBob85 posts small blind (0.10)
LFIABP posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ 4c, Ac, As, 7d ]
mrblack448 folds.
Whiteymcgee calls (0.25)
farnhamlll folds.
jukeNpuke calls (0.25)
Kringle66 folds.
briachek calls (0.25)
JollyBob85 folds.
LFIABP checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8c, 5h, Jc ]
LFIABP bets (1.10)
Whiteymcgee folds.
jukeNpuke folds.
briachek calls (1.10)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ]
LFIABP bets (3.15)
briachek calls (3.15)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
LFIABP bets (9.15)
briachek ????

same guy as hand 3. Call or fold? Results later.
Last edited by briachek on Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Hofstra » Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:15 pm

1) (and 4) ) I know you hate raising preflop, but I would definitely raise here since you are in position and want a bit of a pot. On the flop you have top two and nobody seems to have much so I would raise the max. Turn is a good card for you, so in case someone is still in there I fire again.

2) With 2nd set I like to find out on the flop whether I'm going to continue or not. With the draws out there, your opponent either has a good draw or has top set (or is mentally impaired). I like to make a checkraise on the flop when I have middle set, since that give you the clearest answer to the question whether there is a better hand out there. If I get reraised I fold, and if I get called I try to push with any safe turn card. Betting seems fine too, although this min raise is a bit weird. Any read? Maybe the min raise means your opponent has bottom set and tries to find out cheaply if he's good. Maybe the min raise means your opponent doesn't really know what to do. Anyway, I'd reraise a decent amount because even if he has two pair or bottom set you don't want him to hit a silly backup draw. On the turn do whatever you think will get the money in.

3a) I like the checkraise on the flop. Turn bet standard. On the river I'd check-call, since he most likely has a busted draw. But if I were him, I wouldn't bluff that river, since you're most likely calling...

3b) You are really playing a 2-card hand here that hardly has anything else to go with the QQ and in EP that may not always be a good idea. You need an unraised multiway pot to make playing this hand profitable and even when you have your perfect flop (as in the hand), you are hampered by having to act first on all streets.
Anyway, if you think someone will bet you might try a checkraise on the flop. You only invested 25 cts, so if you miss there is not much harm done. Throughout the hand it is a mystery what your opponent has; against a bad player I might try to use a small blocking bet on the river, say $2 into the $7 pot. If he raises I'd fold, unless I've seen him raise the river with non-nut hands.

4) Again, I'd raise big preflop. Now you have no clue what you're up against, but you figure to have about 13 outs. I wouldn't mind shoving all my money in here. Sure, if he has top set it's going to be a gamble, but he might just be testing the waters with two pair or middle set and fold his hand if you show heavy aggression....

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:21 pm

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