Yet again - Part 2

[briachek]

Hand 1

***** Hand History for Game 2514529290 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed Aug 10 23:59:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 36827 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: wilsc54 ( $23.10)
Seat 2: Tiltzilla ( $23.55)
Seat 3: copperkey ( $44.85)
Seat 4: bobby_lee ( $24.50)
Seat 5: WileyPete ( $54.30)
Seat 6: snake81ks ( $25.05)
Seat 7: briachek ( $44.85)
Seat 8: BSSNOOK ( $15.20)
Seat 9: sangrefrio ( $24.50)
Seat 10: devilscut ( $17)
sangrefrio posts small blind (0.10)
devilscut posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ Js, Jc, 7c, 3c ]
wilsc54 calls (0.25)
Tiltzilla calls (0.25)
copperkey calls (0.25)
bobby_lee calls (0.25)
WileyPete folds.
snake81ks raises (0.50) to 0.50
briachek calls (0.50)
BSSNOOK folds.
sangrefrio folds.
devilscut calls (0.25)
wilsc54 calls (0.25)
Tiltzilla calls (0.25)
copperkey calls (0.25)
bobby_lee calls (0.25)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 7d, Ts ]
devilscut checks.
wilsc54 checks.
Tiltzilla checks.
copperkey checks.
bobby_lee checks.
snake81ks checks.
briachek bets (3.45)
devilscut folds.
wilsc54 folds.
Tiltzilla folds.
copperkey folds.
bobby_lee folds.
snake81ks calls (3.45)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
snake81ks bets (0.25)
briachek calls (0.25)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5d ]
snake81ks checks.
briachek checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $10.45 | Rake: $0.55
Board: [ Jd 7d Ts 9s 5d ]
snake81ks balance $20.85, lost $4.20 [ Ad Th Tc 5h ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Jd,Th,Tc,Ts,9s ]
briachek balance $51.10, bet $4.20, collected $10.45, net +$6.25 [ Js Jc 7c 3c ] [ three of a kind, jacks -- Js,Jc,Jd,Ts,9s ]


I think I played this too weak on the turn and river. I got to stop looking for monsters under the bed. Where would you be more aggressive?

Hand 2

***** Hand History for Game 2514432422 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed Aug 10 23:45:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 37481 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: lilsaintlou ( $23.50)
Seat 2: sangrefrio ( $20.35)
Seat 3: ClrBlueFish ( $23)
Seat 4: Estock8282 ( $36.45)
Seat 5: KirkVanHoute ( $36.60)
Seat 6: briachek ( $24.90)
Seat 7: Kringle66 ( $17)
Seat 8: terraminator ( $5.85)
Seat 9: HawkEye888 ( $31.88)
ClrBlueFish posts small blind (0.10)
Estock8282 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ As, Ah, Kh, Ac ]
KirkVanHoute calls (0.25)
briachek calls (0.25)
Kringle66 folds.
terraminator calls (0.25)
HawkEye888 calls (0.25)
lilsaintlou folds.
sangrefrio folds.
ClrBlueFish calls (0.15)
Estock8282 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4d, 6h, Tc ]
ClrBlueFish checks.
Estock8282 checks.
KirkVanHoute checks.
briachek bets (1.50)
terraminator calls (1.50)
HawkEye888 folds.
ClrBlueFish calls (1.50)
Estock8282 folds.
KirkVanHoute folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
ClrBlueFish checks.
briachek bets (5.70)
terraminator calls (4.10)
terraminator is all-In.
ClrBlueFish folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 8h ]
Creating Main Pot with $13.50 with terraminator
** Summary **
Main Pot: $13.50 | Side Pot 1: $1.60 | Rake: $0.70
Board: [ 4d 6h Tc 7h 8h ]
briachek balance $32.55, bet $7.45, collected $15.10, net +$7.65 [ As Ah Kh Ac ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ah,Kh,8h,7h,6h ]
terraminator balance $0, lost $5.85 [ 2h 3d 5s 7c ] [ a straight, four to eight -- 8h,7c,6h,5s,4d ]

Ok, I know this is a marginal call preflop but it just looked so pretty that it was hard to fold. Then I sucked out. Any other changes besides folding preflop?

Hand 3

***** Hand History for Game 2514176029 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed Aug 10 23:08:09 EDT 2005
Table Table 36761 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: gtkrug ( $25.45)
Seat 3: WindsOfWar20 ( $34.10)
Seat 4: donwall ( $27.55)
Seat 5: molsanboo ( $24.90)
Seat 6: wilsc54 ( $26.95)
Seat 7: LoLinHuay ( $51.70)
Seat 8: briachek ( $49.25)
wilsc54 posts small blind (0.10)
LoLinHuay posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ 5d, 5c, Ks, Kc ]
briachek calls (0.25)
gtkrug folds.
WindsOfWar20 calls (0.25)
donwall calls (0.25)
molsanboo did not respond in time.
molsanboo folds.
wilsc54 calls (0.15)
LoLinHuay checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2h, 5s, Jc ]
wilsc54 checks.
LoLinHuay checks.
briachek checks.
WindsOfWar20 checks.
donwall checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8s ]
wilsc54 checks.
LoLinHuay checks.
briachek bets (1.25)
WindsOfWar20 folds.
donwall calls (1.25)
wilsc54 folds.
LoLinHuay calls (1.25)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qc ]
LoLinHuay bets (4.75)
briachek folds.
donwall folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $9.50 | Rake: $0.25
Board: [ 2h 5s Jc 8s Qc ]

I went for the check raise on the flop but missed. Thoughts on the river? It just seems to be that people out of position seem to do this alot when they make their draw on the river because they are afraid of not being paid off.

Hand 4

***** Hand History for Game 2514152874 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed Aug 10 23:04:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 36722 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: WindsOfWar20 ( $19.40)
Seat 3: RogerMexico ( $26.55)
Seat 4: gtkrug ( $29.85)
Seat 5: LoLinHuay ( $61.35)
Seat 6: Wild2Red ( $44.55)
Seat 7: InvstmntBnkr ( $19.75)
Seat 8: frkideaky ( $51.65)
Seat 9: briachek ( $24.95)
Seat 10: Aharpdog ( $48.95)
InvstmntBnkr posts small blind (0.10)
briachek posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ Ad, 6c, 9h, 8s ]
Aharpdog calls (0.25)
WindsOfWar20 calls (0.25)
RogerMexico folds.
gtkrug folds.
LoLinHuay calls (0.25)
Wild2Red folds.
InvstmntBnkr calls (0.15)
briachek checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5c, 9c, Ah ]
InvstmntBnkr bets (0.75)
briachek calls (0.75)
Aharpdog folds.
WindsOfWar20 raises (1.50) to 1.50
LoLinHuay folds.
InvstmntBnkr calls (0.75)
briachek calls (0.75)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
InvstmntBnkr checks.
briachek checks.
WindsOfWar20 bets (2)
InvstmntBnkr calls (2)
briachek calls (2)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ac ]
InvstmntBnkr checks.
briachek bets (8)
WindsOfWar20 raises (15.65) to 15.65
WindsOfWar20 is all-In.
InvstmntBnkr folds.
briachek calls (7.65)
Creating Main Pot with $40.90 with WindsOfWar20
** Summary **
Main Pot: $40.90 | | Rake: $2.15
Board: [ 5c 9c Ah 2d Ac ]
WindsOfWar20 balance $0, lost $19.40 [ As 4h 5s 5d ] [ a full house, Aces full of fives -- As,Ah,Ac,5s,5c ]
briachek balance $46.45, bet $19.40, collected $40.90, net +$21.50 [ Ad 6c 9h 8s ] [ a full house, Aces full of nines -- Ad,Ah,Ac,9h,9c ]

This guy was just an idiot. I wanted to fold but I couldn't justify doing it for the price he was giving to me. Comments?

[Hofstra]

[Felonius_Monk]

Hand 1:
I think you played it fine. If you bet the turn or river it's nothing more than a bluff on that board. Could even make an argument for checking the flop (I've been checking this sort of hand here into multiway fields lately, for deception and a big payoff if the board pairs but also to avoid possible checkraisers and holding a hand that still has a good shot of holding up even against a lot of opponents). I wouldn't have called the raise PF with shallow stacks around the table though, that hand is pretty much junk unless you can limp late.

Hand 2:
Don't bluff into a six way pot even if the flop looks uncoordinated, IMO. Fine to bet into maybe 2 or 3 because your fold equity is much better. Here you got your money in as a dog on both streets and sucked out, ya fish!

Hand 3:
With just two to act behind you it might be best to open up rather than going for the CR, but then I'm maybe not one to talk because I'm a bigtime flop CRer when I have anything I like! If the two guys behind were aggressive, then fair enough. River might be more callable heads up, but there's a guy to act behind you, too. Odds of someone holding the straight (it's a pretty obvious draw) or lucking into a higher set are probably more than 2/3, if these guys play straightforwardly, so I'd say this looks a decent fold.

Hand 4:
Strange one. Those tiny bets are troubling, like you say it's hard to pinpoint a point you might fold. That said, I think I'm raising if I'm playing that flop. AA is less likely after no preflop raise, and against 99 or 55 you have outs plus fold equity. Don't want to price in any cheap draws. I'd like to get it heads up with position on this guy, if anyone calls later on and the board throws out a flush on the turn you want to ease off, obviously. Your play was a bit passive on the brick turn, too, though there is something to be said for keeping things cheap. Can't help but feel if you were going to play this against a mystery hand and an obvious draw, you should've found a raise somewhere. On the river I love your full pot bet, no-one's paying off with less than a boat regardless how much you bet, and a lower boat is going to at least call even up to full pot, so you did the right thing to charge the maximum. Very good of him to raise you, too!

[Felonius_Monk]

Out of position I fold hand 4 against a decent field because the hand is not one you can be too bullish with and that position will just kill you. For what it's worth. I don't mind folding the best hand now and again in PLO when I'm out of position, because a lot of others will be folding to me when I have nothing BUT position. Two pair is often good on the flop but on a draw-heavy board there's so many scare cards that someone with 4 random cards can easily outplay you unless you're prepared to make gutsy/reckless calls later on. That said, I still stand by a raise against these guys, because I think the lead better has a draw and you MIGHT just get it heads up with position by doing so.