How to play this set of aces in PLO8

[Kuso]

I flopped a set of aces and I think I screwed the pooch with my post-flop play. I put somebody on a set of jacks, and I wanted their money in on the turn. With four people seeing the turn, I assumed two lows and a set of jacks.... maybe a draw to a straight. Well, the str8 draw hit, and I was not happy. I called and I think it was a mistake. I was saved a bit due to the winner being shortstacked (the set of jacks payed me off a bit), but I was still not happy.

In retrospect, I think that I should have jammed on the flop and tried take the pot there or get heads up with a low.

Comments? Suggestions?

25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: h7390 ( $55.66 )
Seat 2: kyttykat ( $9.10 )
Seat 4: Scooby14k ( $91.19 )
Seat 5: Cruzin ( $14.29 )
Seat 6: Mother_Natur ( $20.87 )
Seat 7: shoven ( $21.30 )
Seat 8: smellyrat ( $39.17 )
Seat 10: nick1105 ( $59.85 )
Seat 9: oddsmakers47 ( $25.05 )
Seat 3: Hero ( $22.15 )
Scooby14k posts small blind [$0.10].
Cruzin posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As 4d 8h Ah ]
Mother_Natur folds.
shoven calls [$0.25].
smellyrat folds.
oddsmakers47 calls [$0.25].
nick1105 folds.
h7390 calls [$0.25].
kyttykat folds.
Hero raises [$0.50].
Scooby14k calls [$0.40].
Cruzin calls [$0.25].
shoven raises [$0.50].
oddsmakers47 calls [$0.50].
h7390 calls [$0.50].
Hero calls [$0.25].
Scooby14k calls [$0.25].
Cruzin calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Jh, Ad ]
Scooby14k checks.
Cruzin checks.
shoven bets [$4.30].
oddsmakers47 calls [$4.30].
h7390 folds.
Hero calls [$4.30].
Scooby14k folds.
Cruzin calls [$4.30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
Cruzin is all-In.
shoven is all-In.
oddsmakers47 folds.
Hero calls [$16.25].
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
Cruzin shows [ 4h, 2h, Kc, Qh ] a straight, ten to ace.
shoven shows [ Js, 2s, Jd, 8d ] three of a kind, jacks.
Hero shows [ As, 4d, 8h, Ah ] three of a kind, aces.
Hero wins $13.47 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, aces.
Cruzin wins $46.97 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.
There was no qualifying low hand.

[briachek]

[Kuso]

i have made 3 massively boneheaded plays today. this has never happened before.

i guess watching the TW challenge yesterday influenced my judgment in a very -EV way.

[Kuso]

make that 4... somehow i thought the rules had changed and i could use 3 cards from my hand.

the meds i'm taking for my back must be messing with my head.

this is really weird.

[Raisor]

too much man, you took too much


sorry couldnt resist

[Kuso]

well, certainly not too much, but maybe i just underestimate how much it influences my cognitive faculties (which are limited in the first place).

[GooperMC]

[Kuso]

Well said, Gooper... thanks.

[Felonius_Monk]

Wow, you hit a great flop. You have to jam that. Three good reasons:

1) No-one in PLO25 is dropping a set of anything on the flop. I wouldn't worry about that.

2) If BOTH players have low-orientated cards, you may be able to get rid of one of them and counterfeit the other for low; your awful low feature may just scoop you the pot if the board turns and river throws out a deuce. Probably won't against two players, though.

3) Charge the draws man, jeez... That's an awfully cheap card to give to anyone who has TKQ and a 9 outer to a scooping nut hand.

If there's a flush draw out and you don't have anything going low, calling actually becomes a promising move because your hand (despite being the temporary nuts) becomes rather weak and needs a lot of help to enable you to go to the felt. Pushing all in here with no low draw and only a set for high with a draw-heavy board is a nice way to give someone a virtual freeroll.

Slow playing in PLO8 when there's a two to a low and you don't have any sort of low is not a very good play. I think you kinda got what you deserved mind you... I bet at $25 they'd both have called anyhow, so perhaps it didn't really matter in this instance. That's a LITTLE bit of consolation, at least!

[JDLush]

[kidluckee]

[JDLush]

Kid, put a flush draw out on that flop and it's not quite as big a stick:
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1174830
pokenum -o8 kc qh 4h 2h - js 2s jd 8d - as 4d ah 8h -- 6d ad jh
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing Ad 6d Jh
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Kc Qh 4h 2h 57 66 600 0 381 0 32 0.362
Js 2s Jd 8d 63 235 431 0 39 366 8 0.248
As 4d Ah 8h 115 365 301 0 39 342 32 0.390

Still +EV, but not by much.