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Should I have raised?

Postby briachek » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:10 pm

I had this hand last night and needed another opinion on it.

Playing $25PL Omaha on Party, I'm dealt JT87ss in CO and there are 4 limpers to me. I limp with about $35 stack. Button folds and blinds complete. Everyone has about a full stack. Flop comes down Q62 rainbow. It gets checked around. Turn is 9, completing the rainbow. Ok, now I have a ton of straight draws and don't have to worry about a flush. Pot is about $3.30 or so and MP bets pot. 1 caller to me and I just call. 1 more caller from EP and its 4 way. Pot about $15. River comes a 5, giving me nut straight, absolute nuts. Checked to me. I bet $7 and only MP calls me with Q9 for two pair and I take the pot.

My question is that with the big draw that I had on the turn, should I have raised it? I've been getting hammered trying to bet some draws so I've been waiting for made hands. If I was first to act instead of last, should I be betting it then or just call a pot bet if its made back to me to see a cheaper river. What if the flop was Q96, should I be betting and raising that rather than if I hit that draw on the turn? I know I'm being too passive in omaha so I need help with that.
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Postby Smokin'Al » Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:24 pm

I'm just learning the game ... my opinion is that a raise would be dubious ... From Q9xx's point of view the most likely scenario is that you're on the draw (the only stronger hand that's been made is if you hold the case 9s).

So I think you have little fold equity, and worse he'd probably reraise (all-in?).
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:45 am

No, you should not have raised. You played it fine. True you have lots of draws, but how many NUT cards can you actually hit?

J and the T might just make higher straights, so although I think they'll win it for you, you can't be sure in what is likely to be a multiway pot. Otherwise, K, 8, 7 and 5 are nut cards for you. I think you want to keep it cheap right now against the fish at this level, and let in further callers. If anyone raises, you have enough outs to make a call, but right now I don't see much reason to raise. At a higher level, a raise may remove players with similar draws (giving you additional equity) and may even fold a player with two pair, giving you some fold equity. At PLO25 I can't see you winning it here and now, and I don't see any problem with letting in a caller or two to swell the pot when your draw is so strong. A raise is not bad but I think it's not really necessary here.

If you had your monster draw on the flop, you could consider raising whilst it's still cheap to do so, perhaps getting some opponents out of the pot, but again I think that unless you honestly believe you might be able to fold your opponent, you may as well call.

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