PLO25 - Extracting Value Part 2

[briachek]

Where could I get more money

Hand 1

***** Hand History for Game 2562587211 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Aug 19 17:46:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 36761 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cfromphilly ( $22.15)
Seat 2: piggeeeeh ( $47.85)
Seat 3: PilaX ( $39.35)
Seat 4: saltamore ( $34)
Seat 5: briachek1 ( $25)
Seat 6: ninja714 ( $30.25)
Seat 7: Mulqvist ( $42.20)
Seat 8: krazyjim ( $24)
Seat 9: qwertypoi ( $32.54)
Seat 10: mistergrinch ( $18.68)
krazyjim posts small blind (0.10)
qwertypoi posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Jh, Td, 8s, Ah ]
mistergrinch calls (0.25)
cfromphilly folds.
piggeeeeh folds.
PilaX calls (0.25)
saltamore folds.
briachek1 calls (0.25)
ninja714 calls (0.25)
Mulqvist calls (0.25)
krazyjim folds.
qwertypoi checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, Ac, Ad ]
qwertypoi checks.
mistergrinch checks.
PilaX checks.
briachek1 checks.
ninja714 checks.
Mulqvist checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5s ]
qwertypoi checks.
mistergrinch checks.
PilaX checks.
briachek1 bets (1.60)
ninja714 folds.
Mulqvist folds.
qwertypoi folds.
mistergrinch calls (1.60)
PilaX folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ Ks ]
mistergrinch checks.
briachek1 checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $4.60 | Rake: $0.20
Board: [ 3c Ac Ad 5s Ks ]
briachek1 balance $27.75, bet $1.85, collected $4.60, net +$2.75 [ Jh Td 8s Ah ] [ three of a kind, aces with jack kicker -- Ah,Ac,Ad,Ks,Jh ]
mistergrinch balance $16.83, lost $1.85 [ 9s 7h 6c As ] [ three of a kind, aces -- As,Ac,Ad,Ks,9s ]

I checked planning on calling as I would be drawing to a better boat if someone already had it. When no one bet, I decided to see who was interested on the turn and just got a call. The river didn't help and if I was behind before, i was still behind Anyone even consider a value bet?

Hand 2

***** Hand History for Game 2559757167 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Aug 19 01:34:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 37205 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: sangrefrio ( $63.45)
Seat 2: BlunderLAF7 ( $24.10)
Seat 3: RogerMexico ( $22.85)
Seat 4: brian1964 ( $21.80)
Seat 5: whobe420 ( $26.25)
Seat 6: LINDER_DODGE ( $69.60)
Seat 7: markm3451 ( $28.15)
Seat 8: HawkEye888 ( $38.55)
Seat 9: Ponyboy888 ( $27.20)
Seat 10: briachek1 ( $25)
RogerMexico posts small blind (0.10)
brian1964 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Ac, Qs, Jc, Qd ]
whobe420 calls (0.25)
LINDER_DODGE calls (0.25)
markm3451 folds.
HawkEye888 folds.
Ponyboy888 calls (0.25)
briachek1 calls (0.25)
sangrefrio calls (0.25)
BlunderLAF7 raises (2.10) to 2.10
RogerMexico folds.
brian1964 calls (1.85)
whobe420 folds.
LINDER_DODGE calls (1.85)
Ponyboy888 calls (1.85)
briachek1 calls (1.85)
sangrefrio folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, Td, 8d ]
brian1964 checks.
LINDER_DODGE checks.
Ponyboy888 checks.
briachek1 checks.
BlunderLAF7 bets (3)
brian1964 calls (3)
LINDER_DODGE folds.
Ponyboy888 calls (3)
briachek1 raises (22.90) to 22.90
briachek1 is all-In.
BlunderLAF7 folds.
brian1964 folds.
Ponyboy888 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $41.85 with briachek1
** Summary **
Main Pot: $41.85 | Rake: $1.15
Board: [ 9c Td 8d ]

I think this worked out perfectly. I obviously have the nuts but I want to get some money in there so I can make a big bet and scare out flush draws. I got exactly what I wanted. Leading out might have won me a bigger pot but with alot more risk.

Hand 3

***** Hand History for Game 2559741806 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Aug 19 01:31:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 36722 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: A_Bulletz ( $24.95)
Seat 2: bybop ( $64.10)
Seat 3: sangrefrio ( $43.80)
Seat 4: Vonnegut_00 ( $25.40)
Seat 5: briachek1 ( $25)
Seat 6: cobia_king ( $60.84)
Seat 7: classic_call ( $32.75)
Seat 8: Ginger89 ( $23.15)
Seat 9: RogerMexico ( $24.90)
Seat 10: Mitrichor ( $21.90)
classic_call posts small blind (0.10)
Ginger89 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ 8d, Qh, 9s, Jh ]
RogerMexico raises (0.85) to 0.85
Mitrichor folds.
A_Bulletz folds.
sangrefrio folds.
Vonnegut_00 folds.
briachek1 calls (0.85)
cobia_king folds.
classic_call folds.
Ginger89 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, 2h, 5h ]
RogerMexico bets (1.95)
briachek1 raises (7.80) to 7.80
RogerMexico folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $11.55 | Rake: $0.25
Board: [ 9h 2h 5h ]

In hindsigt, this play just seems stupid as only someone with a higher flush will call and since he raised preflop, he could easily have Ax hearts. However, i think he knows i'm solid so maybe he would fold the K high flush? No, If I really had the A high flush, you would think I would just call, although I am a nutpeddling bastard. If he raises me, its safe to fold. If I call, I will likely not get anything from him later since he likely doesn't have a set or flush.

Hand 4

***** Hand History for Game 2558346685 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 21:47:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 36999 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: mpacinfante ( $25.25)
Seat 2: briachek1 ( $35.05)
Seat 4: Beamchaser ( $21.95)
Seat 5: Djim44 ( $2.95)
Seat 6: Vonnegut_00 ( $29.25)
Seat 9: kurgman ( $4)
Seat 10: SofaKingSIow ( $46.35)
briachek1 posts small blind (0.10)
Beamchaser posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ 4s, 5d, 7d, 8h ]
Djim44 folds.
Vonnegut_00 folds.
kurgman calls (0.25)
SofaKingSIow folds.
mpacinfante calls (0.25)
briachek1 calls (0.15)
Beamchaser checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2d, 3c, Kd ]
briachek1 checks.
Beamchaser checks.
kurgman bets (1)
mpacinfante folds.
briachek1 calls (1)
Beamchaser calls (1)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ac ]
briachek1 checks.
Beamchaser checks.
kurgman bets (2)
briachek1 raises (9.80) to 9.80
Beamchaser folds.
kurgman calls (0.75)
kurgman is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
Creating Main Pot with $9.05 with kurgman
** Summary **
Main Pot: $9.05 | Side Pot 1: $7.05 | Rake: $0.45
Board: [ 2d 3c Kd Ac Qs ]
briachek1 balance $40.10, bet $11.05, collected $16.10, net +$5.05 [ 4s 5d 7d 8h ] [ a straight, ace to five -- Ac,5d,4s,3c,2d ]
kurgman balance $0, lost $4 [ 6c Ah 3d Ad ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ah,Ad,Ac,Kd,Qs ]

Should I have called or raised less? I ended up isolating with the REALLY short stack when i could have gotten some money out of the larger stack. Of course if i would have lost it to JT from the big stack, I have no one to blame but myself.

Hand 5

***** Hand History for Game 2558302602 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 21:41:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 37359 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: FireFox_ ( $30.55)
Seat 2: sweetie80 ( $55.70)
Seat 3: rakesux ( $20.40)
Seat 4: IzPIMPIN ( $48.25)
Seat 5: briachek1 ( $24.65)
Seat 6: kapahm ( $53.25)
Seat 7: mistergrinch ( $24.25)
Seat 9: sadbanana ( $32.70)
Seat 10: IPredictPain ( $22.65)
briachek1 posts small blind (0.10)
kapahm posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Th, 5d, Kc, Kd ]
mistergrinch folds.
sadbanana folds.
IPredictPain calls (0.25)
FireFox_ folds.
sweetie80 calls (0.25)
rakesux calls (0.25)
IzPIMPIN calls (0.25)
briachek1 calls (0.15)
kapahm checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, Jc, Ad ]
briachek1 checks.
kapahm checks.
IPredictPain checks.
sweetie80 checks.
rakesux checks.
IzPIMPIN checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
IzPIMPIN: so many clubs lol
briachek1 checks.
kapahm checks.
IPredictPain checks.
sweetie80 bets (0.50)
rakesux folds.
IzPIMPIN calls (0.50)
briachek1 calls (0.50)
kapahm calls (0.50)
IPredictPain folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 4d ]
briachek1 bets (3.35)
kapahm folds.
sweetie80 calls (3.35)
IzPIMPIN folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $9.70 | Rake: $0.50
Board: [ Tc Jc Ad 2d 4d ]
FireFox_ balance $30.55, didn't bet (folded)
sweetie80 balance $51.60, lost $4.10 [ 8c Td Jd 3h ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Jd,Td,4d,2d ]
briachek1 balance $30.25, bet $4.10, collected $9.70, net +$5.60 [ Th 5d Kc Kd ] [ a flush, ace high with king kicker -- Ad,Kd,5d,4d,2d ]

He can't have broadway as he would have bet earlier and only a flush will call me. Is this one of the times I should have obviously go for the check raise on the river?

Hand 6

***** Hand History for Game 2558249721 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 21:33:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 37205 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: saltamore ( $70.23)
Seat 2: briachek1 ( $25.80)
Seat 3: johnjamjr ( $12.79)
Seat 4: copperkey ( $23.75)
Seat 5: GOT_BEER ( $33.50)
Seat 6: FireFox_ ( $33.90)
Seat 7: Obwan ( $11)
Seat 8: WindsOfWar20 ( $30.13)
Seat 9: tushhogg ( $24.38)
Seat 10: TeaPea808 ( $20.55)
saltamore posts small blind (0.10)
briachek1 posts big blind (0.25)
FireFox_ posts big blind + dead (0.35)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ 4d, Jc, Jh, 2c ]
johnjamjr calls (0.25)
copperkey folds.
GOT_BEER folds.
FireFox_ checks.
Obwan folds.
tushhogg calls (0.25)
TeaPea808 folds.
saltamore calls (0.15)
briachek1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 7c, Ts ]
saltamore bets (1.35)
briachek1 calls (1.35)
johnjamjr folds.
FireFox_ calls (1.35)
tushhogg folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
saltamore checks.
briachek1 bets (5.15)
FireFox_ calls (5.15)
saltamore folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ Tc ]
briachek1 bets (8)
FireFox_ calls (8)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $30.15 | Rake: $1.55
Board: [ Jd 7c Ts Td Tc ]
briachek1 balance $41.20, bet $14.75, collected $30.15, net +$15.40 [ 4d Jc Jh 2c ] [ a full house, Jacks full of tens -- Jc,Jh,Jd,Ts,Td ]
FireFox_ balance $19.05, lost $14.85 [ 5h 7s Ad 7d ] [ a full house, Tens full of sevens -- Ts,Td,Tc,7s,7d ]

This is self explanatory. Comments? Fear the quads? What if raised on the river? He could just have QQ-AA.

Hand 7

***** Hand History for Game 2557956069 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 20:49:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 37205 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: saltamore ( $38.10)
Seat 2: briachek1 ( $23.90)
Seat 3: johnjamjr ( $20.90)
Seat 4: Rufio4038 ( $7.60)
Seat 5: MrLippman ( $23.50)
Seat 6: markm3451 ( $24.38)
Seat 7: Aardvark47 ( $50.25)
Seat 8: WindsOfWar20 ( $36.98)
Seat 9: sargejd12 ( $25)
Seat 10: TeaPea808 ( $25.65)
saltamore posts small blind (0.10)
briachek1 posts big blind (0.25)
sargejd12 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ 2d, 3d, Jh, 2c ]
johnjamjr folds.
Rufio4038 folds.
MrLippman folds.
markm3451 calls (0.25)
Aardvark47 calls (0.25)
WindsOfWar20 folds.
sargejd12 checks.
TeaPea808 folds.
saltamore calls (0.15)
briachek1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4s, 5c, As ]
saltamore checks.
briachek1 checks.
markm3451 checks.
Aardvark47 checks.
sargejd12 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ad ]
saltamore checks.
briachek1 bets (1.25)
markm3451 calls (1.25)
Aardvark47 folds.
sargejd12 calls (1.25)
saltamore calls (1.25)
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
saltamore checks.
briachek1 checks.
markm3451 checks.
sargejd12 checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $5.95 | Rake: $0.30
Board: [ 4s 5c As Ad Js ]
saltamore balance $36.60, lost $1.50 [ Td Ac Qd 6d ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ac,As,Ad,Qd,Js ]
briachek1 balance $28.35, bet $1.50, collected $5.95, net +$4.45 [ 2d 3d Jh 2c ] [ a straight, ace to five -- As,5c,4s,3d,2d ]
markm3451 balance $22.88, lost $1.50 [ 3h 5h 3s 6c ] [ two pairs, aces and fives -- As,Ad,6c,5h,5c ]
sargejd12 balance $23.50, lost $1.50 [ Th Tc Ks 2h ] [ two pairs, aces and tens -- As,Ad,Js,Th,Tc ]

I went for the check raise and failed. On the turn, if anyone had the boat, they would raise. I was suprised the river was checked down. Do you call any bet on the river?

[Stl10202]

[briachek]

thanks for taking the time. I know not to look for a detailed explanation or anything since I post so many hands so I appreciate your effort in giving your opinion. I've been playing ALOT of PLO recently and questionable hands come up all the time.