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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:38 pm

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Postby Rhound50 » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:43 am

Iceman I think your situation is a little different than his, from your charts $475 is a very small part of you winnings and bankroll, all I am saying is that. I try not to allow myself to give back that much of my bankroll in one sitting no matter how juicy the game is. Sometimes the juicy games can get you in trouble when you take some bad loss's because there is so much action. I had a very similar days as his today, you can see my rant in the anything goes section. I really wanted to run to the ATM and buy in again, but the morons at that game will be there the next time I want to play. And no matter how it seems at that point to me, I am not going to play my best poker after taking a series of bad beats in big pots. Just my 2 cents.
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Postby Namkce » Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:47 am

Round50 has a very valid point. When your bankroll can easily be wiped out, don't risk it. Take a break and rebuild. if you're down 500 and your total bankroll is 25,000 then there really isn't much calm for alarm, you can probably keep playing and bring it back up. but when your total bankroll is 900, and you lose 500, then it's time to hit the brakes.

I don't know what the break point is for NL, but for me in limit, it's 30 BB. If I lose 30 BB, I take a break... otherwise I keep playing and end in the black again. Today, I had a couple of times where I was down 20 BB in a few sessions, but finished all those session with positive BBs. But I wouldn't hesitate to quit if I felt like I was either being out played or wasn't on top of my game.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:59 am

Well, I agree that if my bankroll was 900, I would quit WAY before I lost 500, but thats an extreme example. I was playing $200NL, so when I was down $475, that was almost 2 1/2 buy ins, which is a very rare occurance for me.

Youre right the same morons would be there the next day (and they were), but as long as Im not tilting theres no reason to quit. Thats one good benefit to be playing well within or below your bankroll limits.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:38 am

You can tell when a players needs to shut it down or when he just took some bad beats. 2 examples from last night.

Player one got sucked out on Q3 vs his AQ when the board flopped QX3 after he raised the blinds X4 UTG + 1 this is on the .25/.50 $50 max buy in. BB calls with Q3s.

BB checks UTG+1 bets $5 BB pushes all in with remaining $20. UTG+1 calls. No help BB doubles up.

UTG+1 goes on tilt and loses 3 more buy ins pushing all in with QQ vs KK pre flop. Then with a nut flush all in bet at the river to a boat. Then all in pre flop A10s vs. AK. He played all these hands poorly. He went all in with QQ UTG. The nut flush he made on the turn but slow played it. The board paired on the river and he pushes all in. A10s needs no explaination.

Player 2. I watched the table for a round before taking my seat. There was a bully over betting every hand he stayed in. He had the most chips and wasn't afraid to put someone all in. I sit down and post a blind. It is limped around to the BB bully. He doubles the blind. EP stays in and I call with K10s. The flop is Kxx rainbow. BB pushes all in. EP folds. TP bad kicker I believe he is on a steal I call. He flips over AK. Feels good about his play till I get a 10 on the river. He went from $90 to $40. Also note I might not have made that call if I hadn't been up $200 at another table.

He talks a little trash. which I don't respond to. One thing this call did for me was make everyone think I sucked. I was able to get more action when I did have a hand. He lost again later taking him down to around $20. Then he collected himself and when I left the table he was back up to $75.

Point is player 2 is just an aggressive player who is going to be up and down every session.

Player 1 let one suck out cost him almost $200.

If your aggressive your going to take some beats. If you can't stand being sucked out on then once it happens leave for a while go watch a I love Lucy rerun and then buy back in.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:34 pm

Very good advice. Well, actually, Giilligans Island may be better in that situation.
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