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Taking Risks Part 2 - Pushing Draws

Postby briachek » Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:38 pm

Omaha is a game of draws so I've been trying to push them a little more. Let me know what you guys think

Hand 1

***** Hand History for Game 2644626148 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Sat Sep 03 02:32:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 36658 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Bigmaxi ( $19.75)
Seat 2: d3man9 ( $8)
Seat 3: ericfickel ( $11.60)
Seat 4: xxxHustlingx ( $45)
Seat 5: A10WB ( $25.55)
Seat 6: briachek ( $24.65)
Seat 7: ildiko200 ( $23.90)
Seat 8: yanghe88 ( $23.55)
Seat 9: Cye99 ( $22.85)
Seat 10: conradical2 ( $30.78)
Cye99 posts small blind (0.10)
conradical2 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ Js, Ac, Ts, Ks ]
Bigmaxi folds.
d3man9 calls (0.25)
ericfickel folds.
xxxHustlingx calls (0.25)
A10WB folds.
briachek calls (0.25)
ildiko200 folds.
yanghe88 calls (0.25)
Cye99 folds.
conradical2 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, Qs, 2s ]
conradical2 checks.
d3man9 checks.
xxxHustlingx checks.
briachek bets (1.30)
yanghe88 calls (1.30)
conradical2 folds.
d3man9 folds.
xxxHustlingx folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
briachek bets (3.80)
yanghe88 calls (3.80)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5s ]
briachek bets (6)
yanghe88 calls (6)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $22.40 | Rake: $1.15
Board: [ Ad Qs 2s 5h 5s ]
briachek balance $13.30, lost $11.35 [ Js Ac Ts Ks ] [ a flush, king high -- Ks,Qs,Js,5s,2s ]
yanghe88 balance $34.60, bet $11.35, collected $22.40, net +$11.05 [ 6s Qd 8d As ] [ a flush, ace high with ace kicker -- As,Qs,6s,5s,2s ]

I got lucky on this that the board paired so he only called but with my wrap straight draw, top pair and second to nut flush draw, I thought betting it would be best.

Hand 2

***** Hand History for Game 2642817035 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Sep 02 21:16:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 37481 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: briachek ( $24.50)
Seat 2: B__WARE ( $24.90)
Seat 3: jackchow ( $22.17)
Seat 4: yanghe88 ( $44.43)
Seat 6: silers ( $32.32)
Seat 7: Intraware1 ( $14.75)
Seat 8: miwodo ( $36.68)
Seat 9: chesscdg ( $3.40)
Seat 10: FarFromHa ( $9.15)
briachek posts small blind (0.10)
B__WARE posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ Kc, Ac, Ah, 4h ]
jackchow calls (0.25)
yanghe88 raises (1.10) to 1.10
silers folds.
Intraware1 folds.
miwodo folds.
chesscdg folds.
FarFromHa calls (1.10)
briachek calls (1)
B__WARE calls (0.85)
jackchow folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, 7h, Jc ]
briachek checks.
B__WARE checks.
yanghe88 bets (4.45)
FarFromHa raises (8.05) to 8.05
FarFromHa is all-In.
briachek raises (23.40) to 23.40
briachek is all-In.
B__WARE folds.
yanghe88 calls (18.95)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kh ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6s ]
Creating Main Pot with $27.40 with FarFromHa
Creating Side Pot 1 with $29.15 with briachek
** Summary **
Main Pot: $27.40 | Side Pot 1: $29.15 | | Rake: $2.95
Board: [ 6h 7h Jc Kh 6s ]
briachek balance $29.15, bet $24.50, collected $29.15, net +$4.65 [ Kc Ac Ah 4h ] [ a flush, ace high with ace kicker -- Ah,Kh,7h,6h,4h ]
yanghe88 balance $19.93, lost $24.50 [ 8c 9h 4c 2h ] [ a flush, king high -- Kh,9h,7h,6h,2h ]
FarFromHa balance $27.40, bet $9.15, collected $27.40, net +$18.25 [ 4s Ad 7c 7d ] [ a full house, Sevens full of sixes -- 7c,7d,7h,6h,6s ]

This was a bit marginal but I thought I had a decent amount of outs. Worked out for a little profit tonight.

Hand 3

***** Hand History for Game 2641699978 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Sep 02 17:52:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 36548 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: the_warden ( $32.40)
Seat 2: xBlueangelx ( $0)
Seat 3: erato ( $22.20)
Seat 4: Fear_Factors ( $48.25)
Seat 5: samsbud ( $71.15)
Seat 6: Estock8282 ( $21.05)
Seat 7: mqm1984 ( $29.65)
Seat 8: SteviPW ( $36)
Seat 9: briachek ( $25)
Seat 10: bridgepekk ( $30.95)
mqm1984 posts small blind (0.10)
SteviPW posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [ Ac, 4c, Td, Kd ]
briachek calls (0.25)
bridgepekk folds.
the_warden folds.
erato raises (1.10) to 1.10
Fear_Factors calls (1.10)
samsbud calls (1.10)
Estock8282 calls (1.10)
mqm1984 folds.
SteviPW folds.
briachek calls (0.85)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, Qs, 7d ]
briachek checks.
erato bets (5.60)
Fear_Factors calls (5.60)
samsbud folds.
Estock8282 calls (5.60)
briachek calls (5.60)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
briachek checks.
erato checks.
Fear_Factors bets (20)
Estock8282 calls (14.35)
Estock8282 is all-In.
briachek calls (18.30)
briachek is all-In.
erato folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ Jh ]
Creating Main Pot with $68.30 with Estock8282
Creating Side Pot 1 with $7.90 with briachek
** Summary **
Main Pot: $68.30 | Side Pot 1: $7.90 | Side Pot 2: $1.70 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Jc Qs 7d 5c Jh ]
Fear_Factors balance $99.45, bet $26.70, collected $77.90, net +$51.20 [ Jd Kc Tc 7h ] [ a full house, Jacks full of sevens -- Jd,Jc,Jh,7h,7d ]
Estock8282 balance $0, lost $21.05 [ Ah 6h Ts 8h ] [ a pair of jacks -- Ah,Qs,Jc,Jh,Ts ]
briachek balance $0, lost $25 [ Ac 4c Td Kd ] [ a pair of jacks with king kicker -- Ac,Kd,Qs,Jc,JhKd(kicker card) ]

Flush and straight outs and hit none. Would have been a big score but I'm fine with my play.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:21 pm

Hand 1 - I like your play. Was tough that he had a hand that had you in such trouble, usually here you're up against another draw and they either lose the stomach for the fight on the turn, or pass once the board pairs given that you've been repping a set all the way. Being aggressive like this against a weakish opponent beats the pants off playing passively, although it seems this guy had a bit much of a hand (and perhaps was also a bit too loose) to get out.

Hand 2 - I like your play a lot. I take the same approach I think, though betting out would be OK too. I think you've got too much to fold here, and I'm not necessarily believing that this flop has necessarily put the PFR ahead. Most likely he had a big wrap type hand and your aces are ahead, or (perhaps) there's just a sniff of a chance he has a set. Your two aces plus your flush outs still give you comfortably over a third of the equity though, so even in that scenario you're not in such a bad spot by pushing. It's a nice example of a good PLO "backup" hand whereby if you've made a mistake, it simply can't be a big one because of your "backup" outs. Small -EV situations are fine in this game now and again - it's the ones where you're crippled (middle set vs top set etc) that kill you.

Hand 3 - pretty straightforward play really. Them's the breaks.
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Postby euri10 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:06 am

I cried because I had no draw, until I met a man with no pair>>>MVSPORTS
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