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Postby briachek » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:29 pm

No read on villain.

Game #888618884: Omaha High Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.25) - 2005/09/13 - 20:46:26 (ET)
Table "Xaxado" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 2: Adam72 ($40.89 in chips)
Seat 4: briachek ($34.35 in chips)
Seat 5: THare14 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 6: LeetBeanz ($21.20 in chips)
Seat 7: Arapherho ($16.84 in chips)
Seat 8: rickyjc ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Chr160644 ($43.03 in chips)
Seat 10: Patch300 ($69.44 in chips)
Chr160644: posts small blind $0.15
Patch300: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to briachek [3c Ac Ah 9h]
Adam72: calls $0.25
briachek: calls $0.25
THare14: folds
LeetBeanz: calls $0.25
Arapherho: folds
rickyjc: calls $0.25
Chr160644: calls $0.10
Patch300: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Kc 6c Ks]
Chr160644: checks
Patch300: checks
Adam72: checks
briachek: checks
LeetBeanz: checks
rickyjc: checks
----- TURN ----- [Kc 6c Ks][2d]
Chr160644: checks
Patch300: checks
Adam72: checks
briachek: checks
LeetBeanz: checks
rickyjc: bets $0.25
Chr160644: folds
Patch300: folds
Adam72: folds
Adam72 sits out
briachek: calls $0.25
LeetBeanz: folds
----- RIVER ----- [Kc 6c Ks 2d][5c]
briachek: checks
rickyjc: bets $2
Adam72 sits back
briachek: calls $2
----- SHOW DOWN -----
rickyjc: shows [8c 5s 3d 4d] (A Straight, Six high)
briachek: shows [3c Ac Ah 9h] (A Flush, Ace high)
briachek collected $5.70 from Main pot

I wouldn't feel comfortable raising anywhere and i think i have too much to fold. thoughts?
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Postby briachek » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:33 pm

Hand 2

ame #888765024: Omaha High Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.25) - 2005/09/13 - 21:01:16 (ET)
Table "Xaxado" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 2: Adam72 ($41.24 in chips)
Seat 4: briachek ($36.15 in chips)
Seat 5: THare14 ($5.65 in chips)
Seat 6: LeetBeanz ($19.55 in chips)
Seat 8: rickyjc ($19.65 in chips)
Adam72: posts small blind $0.15
briachek: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to briachek [Qs Jd 5c Ah]
THare14: folds
LeetBeanz: folds
rickyjc: folds
Adam72: calls $0.10
briachek: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Kc 3d Tc]
Adam72: bets $0.25
briachek: raises to $1.25
Adam72: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [Kc 3d Tc][7c]
Adam72: bets $0.25
briachek: calls $0.25
----- RIVER ----- [Kc 3d Tc 7c][9d]
Adam72: bets $2
briachek: calls $2
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Adam72: shows [4s Qc 5d 2c] (A Flush, King high)
briachek: mucks hand
Adam72 collected $7.15 from Main pot

The turn seems to be the key action. Raise there and find out information or just try to get to a cheap showdown.?
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Postby euri10 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:28 am

hand 1 raise preflop, lead the flop take the money or fold to a raise...
your call on the river is not correct i think, ok I know I call 40$ river bets in a 140$ pot with 2 low pairs..... :roll:
hand 2 I fold the turn
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Postby kidluckee » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:25 am

Hand 1: I make a bet on the flop with the intent of going away if there is any action at all. Much better to pay the $2 you paid off later by trying to win it now when hands like you lost to would have folded.

Hand 2: I call that turn bet, too, with the intent of folding to any reasonable river bet even if I improve (hopefully I have the discipline to this most times). I don't think 2 pair or a set are betting OOP on that river after a weak turn bet. You don't lose much by folding, even if you are wrong it won't be very often. Ideally, you hope that a 2 pair type hand will bet another 0.25 on river. Many play that way at these stakes. I can't see folding the turn for a quarter even if I'm likely beat because I never want to give the impression that I'll raise a flop and go away for a min-bet on turn. Seems too easy to get bet into every time a scare card hits. You want to take the pot from me? Fine, but at least make a real bet to do so.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:56 pm

Hand 1 I'd make a raise on the turn then shut down, although if he leads for any more than the minimum (or is a rock) I'd fold outright. I think I raise preflop too but I know you don't do that much...

Hand 2 I think you have to raise that turn (a complete bluff, on the assumption his flush is non-nut) if he'll fold a weak flush, or to fold. I have no idea what you're trying to achieve here by smooth calling; surely he has to have a flush, and if not you're telling him you don't and letting him take you off any river?
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Postby briachek » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:36 pm

hand 2, what if this was something i would do with the nut flush. Call the turn in position to raise him on the river.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:46 pm

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